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Subject: Re: If Not Self-Awareness, then How About Self-Monitoring?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 20:18:04 11/04/02

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On November 04, 2002 at 22:00:35, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On November 04, 2002 at 21:33:52, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On November 04, 2002 at 20:22:44, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I guess people think trying to program self-awareness into their chess engines
>>>is getting dangerously close to trying to create life.  That is clearly taboo
>>>for chess programmers.
>>
>>Not necessarily taboo.  Just beyond what is possible right now.  In 20 years or
>>so, we will be able to create computers smarter than we are.
>>
>>>So how about just adding code to do "self-monitoring" and "self-adjustment"
>>>during and between games?  That wouldn't be taboo, would it?  It could almost be
>>>called "learning."  You don't have to be alive to learn, do you?
>>
>>Lots of computer programs learn.
>>There is TD-Lambda learning
>>There is book learning
>>There is position learning
>>
>>Probably some other kinds too.
>>
>>The real problem is the compute power.  The reason we don't have computer
>>programs that learn in the way that humans do is that we don't have the
>>horsepower to do it.  Hence, some other method than a neural net with feedback
>>is needed.
>
>Dann:
>
>Do you, then, see "doing self-monitoring and self-adjustment during and between
>games" as being identically the same thing as "learning"?

It is learning.  However, cognition is not involved.

>Could no "self-monitoring" and/or "self-adjustment" be done which is not already
>covered by the cases you cited above?

There will always be things that have not been implemented yet until an
omniscient chess program has been written.



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