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Subject: Re: Genius 1 486/66 - CG 1.5 Palm, 2-0, now 14-0

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:45:58 11/05/02

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On November 05, 2002 at 08:16:19, José Antônio Fabiano Mendes wrote:

>On November 05, 2002 at 07:34:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 05, 2002 at 07:27:00, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>
>>>On November 05, 2002 at 07:00:40, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>It looks as if Chess Genius 1.5 will NOT reach a SSDF 1950 Elo after all. This
>>>>will make CG 1.5 for palm, 150 Elo points weaker than Chess Tiger for Palm.
>>>>
>>>>Pichard.
>>>
>>>This is just one single match. Testing 2 versions of the same program in match
>>>may distort the results. I suspect that the difference in strength is
>>>overestimated here.
>>>
>>>Uli
>>
>>Are CG1.5 palm and Genius1 based on the same software when the only difference
>>is hardware?
>>
>>I think that an interesting test may be the position when computer sacrificed a
>>piece in 1974 when the sacrifice was correct(unfortunately I did not save the
>>position)
>>
>>I remember that I read that genius1 solved this problem when Genius3 could see
>>nothing even after many hours on p100.
>>
>>Unfortunately I do not have the position here.
>>
>>Uri
> Please see ===> http://membres.lycos.fr/albillo/ajedre3b.htm
> [D]rq2k2r/3n1ppp/p2bpnb1/8/Np1N4/1B3PP1/PP2Q2P/R1BR2K1 w

Yes this is the position that I meant

Can palm genius solve it?
Movei cannot see it in a reasonable time

It can see a positive score for Bxe6 and it's mobility evaluation does not help
it to get a positive score even after Nxe6 fxe6 Qxe6+ Be7

After these moves it can see something like the following:
The score is going up every iteration so maybe depth 13 is enough for a positive
score.

depth=11 -0.36 d1e1 b8d8 c1f4 f6g8 f4d6 a8c8 d6b4 a6a5 b4c3 d7f6 c3a5 d8d4 e1e3
Nodes: 20139207 NPS: 123040
Time: 00:02:43.68

end of iteration 11:
depth=11 -0.36 d1e1 b8d8 c1f4 f6g8 f4d6 a8c8 d6b4 a6a5 b4c3 d7f6 c3a5 d8d4 e1e3
Nodes: 29017490 NPS: 126086
Time: 00:03:50.14

depth=12 +0.00 d1e1 b8d8 c1f4 f6g8 a1d1 a8a7 a4c5 d8c8 d1c1 c8d8 c1d1
Nodes: 72017520 NPS: 122896
Time: 00:09:46.00

Uri



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