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Subject: Re: The Deep Junior Team Should use one of this baby !

Author: Joachim Rang

Date: 16:32:26 11/05/02

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On November 05, 2002 at 11:22:49, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 05, 2002 at 05:39:24, Joachim Rang wrote:
>
>>On November 04, 2002 at 18:21:41, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>>On November 04, 2002 at 11:27:44, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 04, 2002 at 07:34:14, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 04, 2002 at 06:50:05, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 04, 2002 at 06:22:12, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mr. Pichard,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How fast can this Dual Guillotine "execute" instructions? This will definitely
>>>>>>>"cut" the time we have to wait during analysis. Kasparov might lose his head.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>TJF
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sorry, but I can NOT stop laughing, you are right, Mr. Kasparov might lose his
>>>>>>head with this new Dual Guilotine. Ha Ha Ha.........
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pichard.
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't "Bet" on it.
>>>>
>>>>I would agree.  Speed against humans is highly over-rated, because speed against
>>>>a computer opponent is so critical.
>>>
>>>If people check the Deep Fritz Vs. GM Kramnik games most of the moves made by
>>>the program can be found very quickly using a fast 1 chip p4. These are not the
>>>only examples, so I would have to agree.
>>
>>It's not about most moves, it's about the singular ones which looses, wins or
>>holds. So I disagree.
>
>The question is, "how many of those occur in a 6 game match?"  And for those
>that
>occur, "how many times does the faster hardware find the winning move, or avoid
>the losing move, when the slower hardware doesn't?"
>
>I think that the answer to that last question against humans is "very
>infrequently".
>While against a computer it is much more significant.
>
>
well, in a 6 game match, probably not more than one time, but this may decide
the whole match.

I agree that hardware is more important in engine-engine-matches, but why not
take the chance to play on better hardware, if there is a probability that it
increases strength?

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>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On November 04, 2002 at 06:13:02, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On November 04, 2002 at 03:32:11, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://www.informationweek.com/news/IWK20021101S0042
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Intel's Quad 2.0Ghz
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Should be around 3M nps with Crafty.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>An intel's Dual Gallatin Xeon operating at 2.2 Ghz should be available by the
>>>>>>>>end of this month, just before the match against Kasparov.



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