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Subject: Omid, When you come back, see this if you didn't yet.

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 17:03:17 11/06/02

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On November 03, 2002 at 19:59:50, stuart taylor wrote:

>On November 03, 2002 at 05:20:31, Omid David wrote:
>
>>
>>The game of chess can never ever be solved:
>>
>>There are about 10^128 potential chess positions. If we start searching with a
>>supercomputer with the speed of 100 million nodes per second (10^8 NPS), it will
>>take about 10^113 years to process all possible positions! What is the speed you
>>can imagine in the next 100 years? Let's say 100 million million nodes per
>>second (10^14 NPS); then it will take "only" 10^107 years to solve the game of
>>chess!
>>
>>And even if we process all 10^128 possible positions, we will have one little
>>problem: where to store the data?! Even if we manage to store a position in an
>>atom, there won't be enough atoms for that, since there are "only" 10^80 atoms
>>in the entire universe...!
>
>I havn't studied computers, or even math in depth (but I can understand things
>quite well if explained). But I'm also concerned with the idea of solving chess,
>and who knows what chess would look like if really solved!
>  Perhaps, with a great amount of study, many more rules can be discovered, and
>an extremely great amount of knowledge can be put into programs, so that, even
>if it is unreliable for a pentium 1 on 90Mhz. to make decent moves in one
>second, a super computer COULD proccess everything at an admirable speed, which
>would be plenty enough for it to proccess everything it needs to proccess for
>it's most qualitative moves.
> If Kasparov can be so selectve, and be about the greatest ever chess player,
>then if a computer is even 1% as intelligently selective as Kasparov, it could
>avoid ever being defeated by Kasparov, or another human.
> The question is WHICH knowledge, but I think that many new things could be
>discovered as to other great ideas to make rules about, for programming.
>S.Taylor



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