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Subject: Re: would someone test this position with Tiger15 and latest crafty vers

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:41:23 11/07/02

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On November 07, 2002 at 00:03:52, K. Burcham wrote:

>
>I was curious about the new Chess Tiger 15, and the latest crafty version with
>this position.
>
>Deep Junior7         instant
>Deep Shredder       1 second
>Deep Fritz7         50 seconds
>
>
> [D] r3nrk1/3nq2p/1bp1p1p1/p2p2PB/3P1P2/PP2P3/1BQN4/R3K2R w KQ - 0 1
>
>Deep Junior 7:
>
>23.Bxg6 hxg6 24.Qxg6+ Ng7 25.Rh7
>  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>23.Qxc6 Nd6 24.Bg4 Nf5 25.Bxf5
>  ±  (0.97)   Depth: 3   00:00:00  1kN
>23.Qxc6 Nd6 24.Bd1 Rac8 25.Qa4 Nf5
>  =  (0.07)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  17kN
>23.Bg4 Nd6 24.0-0-0 Nf5
>  ²  (0.37)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  20kN
>23.Bxg6 hxg6 24.Qxg6+ Qg7 25.Qxe6+ Qf7 26.Qxc6 Rb8
>  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  22kN
>23.Bxg6!
>  ±  (1.15)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  34kN
>23.Bxg6! hxg6 24.Qxg6+ Qg7 25.Qxe6+ Qf7 26.Qxc6 Ng7 27.Qh6 Nf5
>  +-  (1.75)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  65kN
>23.Bxg6 hxg6 24.Qxg6+ Qg7 25.Qxe6+ Qf7 26.Qxc6 Nc7 27.Qh6 Qg7 28.g6 Qxh6 29.Rxh6
>Rae8
>  +-  (1.52)   Depth: 12   00:00:01  986kN
>23.Bxg6 hxg6 24.Qxg6+ Ng7 25.a4 Rfb8 26.Ba3 c5 27.Qh7+ Kf7 28.g6+ Ke8 29.dxc5
>Bxc5 30.Bxc5 Nxc5
>  ±  (1.38)   Depth: 15   00:00:06  13455kN
>23.Bxg6!
>  +-  (1.68)   Depth: 17   00:00:22  43814kN
>
>
>Deep Shreader Paderborn:
>
>  8.01	 0:01 	+1.29 	23.Bxg6 hxg6 24.Qxg6+ Ng7 25.Rc1 Rfc8 26.Nf3 Nf8 27.Qh6 Nf5
>28.Qh8+ Kf7 (861.145) 487.6
>  9.01	 0:02 	+1.35 	23.Bxg6 hxg6 24.Qxg6+ Ng7 25.Rc1 Rfc8 26.Nf3 Nf8 27.Qh6 Nf5
>28.Qh8+ Kf7 29.Kd2 (1.263.181) 492.8
> 10.01	 0:08 	+1.26 	23.Bxg6 hxg6 24.Qxg6+ Ng7 25.Ke2 Rfc8 26.Rag1 Nf8 27.Qf6
>Re8 28.Qh6 Nf5 29.Qh8+ Kf7 (4.288.866) 498.1
> 11.01	 0:16 	+1.33 	23.Bxg6 hxg6 24.Qxg6+ Ng7 25.Ke2 Rfc8 26.Rag1 Nf8 27.Qf6
>Re8 28.Qh6 Nf5 29.Qh8+ Kf7 30.Nf3 (8.445.595) 501.4
> 12.01	 1:07 	+1.58++	23.Bxg6 hxg6 24.Qxg6+ Ng7 25.Rh7 Rfb8 26.Qh6 Nf8 27.g6 c5
>28.dxc5 Rb7 29.cxb6 Qc5 30.Bxg7 Qxe3+ 31.Kd1 Qg1+ 32.Kc2 Qxg6+ 33.Qxg6 Rc7+
>34.bxc7 (33.623.207) 499.8
> 12.01	 1:35 	+2.08++	23.Bxg6 hxg6 24.Qxg6+ Ng7 25.Rh7 Rfb8 26.Qh6 Nf8 27.g6 c5
>28.dxc5 Rb7 29.cxb6 Qc5 30.Bxg7 Qxe3+ 31.Kd1 Qg1+ 32.Kc2 Qxg6+ 33.Qxg6 Rc7+
>34.bxc7 (47.945.433) 502.7
>best move: Bh5xg6 time: 1:58.453 min  n/s: 504.234  CPU 199.6%  nodes:
>59.728.113
>
>
> Deep Fritz 7:
>
>23.Bf3 Rc8 24.b4 axb4 25.axb4 Nc7 26.Kf2 Qxb4 27.Kg2
>  ²  (0.53)   Depth: 8/29   00:00:00  504kN
>23.Bf3 Rc8 24.b4 axb4 25.axb4 Ng7 26.Bg4 Qxb4 27.Ba3 Qa5
>  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 9/30   00:00:01  1359kN
>23.Bg4!
>  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 9/30   00:00:01  1766kN
>23.Bg4 Nd6 24.Qc3 Rac8 25.b4 Ra8 26.Qxc6 axb4 27.axb4 Rxa1+
>  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 10/35   00:00:03  4825kN
>23.Bg4 Nd6 24.Qc3 Rac8 25.Rc1 Nb5 26.Qd3 Nxa3 27.Bxa3 Qxa3 28.Bxe6+ Kg7 29.Kf2
>Qe7
>  ²  (0.53)   Depth: 11/36   00:00:08  10892kN
>23.Bg4 Nd6 24.Qc3 Rac8 25.b4 Nb5 26.Qc2 Nd6 27.Qc3
>  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 12/37   00:00:14  20339kN
>23.Bg4 Nd6 24.Qc3 Rac8 25.b4 Nb5 26.Qc2 Nd6 27.Qc3
>  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 13/39   00:00:44  63024kN
>23.Bxg6!
>  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 13/39   00:00:50  71999kN
>23.Bxg6!
>  ²  (0.66)   Depth: 13/39   00:00:53  75169kN
>23.Bxg6!
>  ±  (0.97)   Depth: 13/39   00:00:56  79823kN
>23.Bxg6 hxg6 24.Qxg6+ Qg7 25.Qxe6+ Qf7 26.Qh6 Qg7 27.Qxc6 Nc7 28.Rh6 Qe7 29.Qg6+
>Qg7 30.Rc1 Rf7 31.f5 Nb5 32.Qxg7+ Rxg7
>  +-  (1.47)   Depth: 13/41   00:01:03  91040kN
>23.Bxg6 hxg6 24.Qxg6+ Qg7 25.Qxe6+ Qf7 26.Qh6 Qg7 27.Qxc6 Nc7 28.Rh6 Qe7 29.Qg6+
>Qg7 30.Rc1 Rf7 31.f5 Nb5 32.Qxg7+
>  +-  (1.47)   Depth: 14/39   00:01:16  109319kN
>23.Bxg6 hxg6 24.Qxg6+ Ng7 25.Rh7 Nf6 26.gxf6 Qxf6 27.Qxf6 Rxf6 28.Rh2 Nf5 29.Ke2
>Kf7 30.Rc1 Rc8 31.Nf3
>  +-  (1.59)   Depth: 15/48   00:02:13  194055kN
>
>
>[Event "35th Olympiad"]
>[Site "Bled, Slovenia"]
>[Date "2002.11.06"]
>[Round "11"]
>[White "Gausel, Einar"]
>[Black "Kallio, Heikki"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[WhiteElo "2511"]
>[BlackElo "2471"]
>[Opening "Réti opening"]
>[ECO "A11"]
>[NIC "QP.09"]
>
>1. Nf3 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Qc2 Nf6 4. e3 a6 5. b3 Bg4 6. Be2 e6 7. Bb2 Bd6 8. d3
>O-O 9. h3 Bh5 10. g4 Bg6 11. Nh4 Nbd7 12. Nxg6 fxg6 13. Nd2 a5 14. a3 Qe7
>15. h4 Be5 16. d4 Bd6 17. c5 Bc7 18. f4 b6 19. cxb6 Bxb6 20. h5 gxh5 21. g5
>Ne8 22. Bxh5 g6 23. Bxg6 hxg6 24. Qxg6+ Ng7 25. Rh7 Rfe8 26. Qh6 Kf8 27.
>Rh8+ {White wins} 1-0


there is some speculative positional stuff here that will influence how quickly
an
engine locks on to Bg6.  takes me 6 seconds, but the score is not a lot better
until
a couple of more plies go by...




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