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Subject: Re: Is the Crafty-Sjeng match complete?

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 12:23:02 11/08/02

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On November 08, 2002 at 15:15:06, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On November 08, 2002 at 14:41:34, James Swafford wrote:
>
>>
>>Sorry if this is old news... I don't get much time to
>>read the posts these days.
>>
>>Crafty and Sjeng played a 5 3 match the other day which
>>ended in favor of Crafty.  Have they played since?
>>I'd like to know if GCP's claim that Sjeng is stronger
>>is true.
>
>From the games I have here (not sure if they're complete),
>it looks like Sjeng won 23-21.
>
>Considering Crafty played most games on hardware that seems about
>twice as fast as mine, I think this is a pretty nice result.
>
>>My guess is the engines are pretty close, but I'm not yet
>>convinced Sjeng is stronger.
>
>I'm not out here to convince you. When the program is released,
>it will be able to do so without my help.
>
>I accepted Roberts challenge because I disagreed with his
>claim that ICC games are a good way to determine which
>program is stronger. My argument was that you end up
>(unintentionally) playing with debug versions too much.
>This happened in the match, Sjengs first 13 games being
>played with a handicapped personality. I didn't complain,
>fixed the bug and played on, confident that Sjeng would
>come back in the match and repair or limit the damage.
>Robert terminated the match at game 44 and posted the
>following two messages:
>
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?263693
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?263695
>
>--
>GCP

What was the record between Sjeng and Crafty after both sides had finally
switched to the appropriate versions for their program?



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