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Subject: Re: Is the Crafty-Sjeng match complete?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:48:36 11/08/02

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On November 08, 2002 at 15:23:02, Ricardo Gibert wrote:

>On November 08, 2002 at 15:15:06, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On November 08, 2002 at 14:41:34, James Swafford wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Sorry if this is old news... I don't get much time to
>>>read the posts these days.
>>>
>>>Crafty and Sjeng played a 5 3 match the other day which
>>>ended in favor of Crafty.  Have they played since?
>>>I'd like to know if GCP's claim that Sjeng is stronger
>>>is true.
>>
>>From the games I have here (not sure if they're complete),
>>it looks like Sjeng won 23-21.
>>
>>Considering Crafty played most games on hardware that seems about
>>twice as fast as mine, I think this is a pretty nice result.
>>
>>>My guess is the engines are pretty close, but I'm not yet
>>>convinced Sjeng is stronger.
>>
>>I'm not out here to convince you. When the program is released,
>>it will be able to do so without my help.
>>
>>I accepted Roberts challenge because I disagreed with his
>>claim that ICC games are a good way to determine which
>>program is stronger. My argument was that you end up
>>(unintentionally) playing with debug versions too much.
>>This happened in the match, Sjengs first 13 games being
>>played with a handicapped personality. I didn't complain,
>>fixed the bug and played on, confident that Sjeng would
>>come back in the match and repair or limit the damage.
>>Robert terminated the match at game 44 and posted the
>>following two messages:
>>
>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?263693
>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?263695
>>
>>--
>>GCP
>
>What was the record between Sjeng and Crafty after both sides had finally
>switched to the appropriate versions for their program?


I never did.  I couldn't get to the machine that was running Crafty from my
house, so there was no way to fix it until I got back to the office the next
day...



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