Author: Gerd Isenberg
Date: 14:47:14 11/09/02
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On November 09, 2002 at 17:36:02, pavel wrote: >On November 09, 2002 at 17:22:49, Gerd Isenberg wrote: > >>On November 09, 2002 at 16:59:34, Russell Reagan wrote: >> >>>On November 09, 2002 at 16:45:26, Gerd Isenberg wrote: >>> >>>>I played CCT4 manually with IsiChess. My conclusion: A seriuos online tournament >>>>requires automatic play. Otherwise there might be always some suspicion obout >>>>some kind of cheating. Most likely forcing moves or delaying entering moves, in >>>>case of ponder hits in critical situations. >>> >>>The rules about hardware basically say, "We can't possibly control that, so >>>there's no rule." This is another situation that we have zero control over. If >>>I'm going to cheat, automatic play does absolutely nothing to prevent that. I >>>can add in a few system calls to test key states, pop open windows to say, "I am >>>going to play 1. e4. Is this ok?" or "Keep searching?" or whatever. >>> >>>As I see it, this rule would only limit the people who can play. Also, I see it >>>as a significant bonus to someone who uses automatic play, because they will be >>>less likely to get into a time crunch or fat finger a wrong move in, or >>>whatever. >>> >>>Russell >> >>Ok, but that implies the intention to cheat, you have also to manipulate the >>log-files, or the whisper output, PV and time. The author or an authorized >>operator is responsible and may lose some reputation. >> >>Playing manuelly allows some subtle kind of manipulating, like going to the bath >>room, when your engine needs a long think, and you are sure your engine ponders >>an obvious move. >> >>Gerd >> >>The rule proposal is not random, but based on experience. >> >>Gerd > >Yes, but basically the rule is that all program who plays this tournament has to >be winboard/xboard/UCI compatible or you can't play it. > Yes. >Don't you think you are asking too much for someone who has written a chess >program that is not compatible with such protocols and thus not be able to play >on ICS automatically. No, what questions did i ask too much? > >In order to join this tournament, he probably will have to re-write large chunk >of his program and perhaps spend months to make it work. > >That means, the chessbase programmers need to make their program compatible with >ICS, or modify the adaptar that helps it play automatically to kibitz. > >This is not a computer chess tournament, this is a "winboard/xboard/UCI >compatible" chess tournament. > >That suxs. > Why, it is an open well known protocol. Everybody may implement it. Some like me, who are not compatible, simply can't play serious online tournaments. Gerd >pavs
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