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Subject: Re: books

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 11:45:31 09/11/98

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On September 10, 1998 at 23:52:52, Mark Young wrote:

>On September 10, 1998 at 17:19:23, blass uri wrote:

>>Do they use the same book in sweden?
>
>Lets not pussy foot around this. It would not matter what book was used. The
>book was not the problem...... Anyone who has fritz 5 and uses it knows that
>fritz 5 will not play bad line after bad line unless it was setup to do so or
>made to, if the program is in working order. I don't know what the problem is,
>but I have reasons to feel it was not fritz 5's fault for its poor showing.

Well, if we really want to not pussy foot around this, let's get it *all* out in
the open.

I think if I had to reword your post so that it actually says what it means, my
best effort would be, "Fritz 5 is a fine program, but it did poorly in
Thorsten's tournament, and Thorsten is known to have a thing about Fritz, so I
think Thorsten is cheating."

This is pretty clearly what you mean, Mark, and others are supporting you by
writing similarly indirect statements.  As of this point we have Moritz
suggesting that Thorsten is influencing the results somehow, and we have Enrique
suggesting that Thorsten is playing several games per round and keeping the ones
that suit him, although neither of these accusations was of the form, "I think
Thorsten did X".

I can imagine a world where someone would actually directly influence game
outcomes.  But I don't have any evidence for this, I think it makes not much
more sense to believe that this is what is happening here as it does to believe
that the ChessBase autoplayer cheats.

As an aside, I don't think Thorsten is devious enough to invent a whole
tournament.  I have known him casually for several years, and I am unsurprised
to see him in the role of the "minority of one", but I don't think he would be
so unprincipled as to create the result that suits him.

Like it or not, Thorsten is on-topic and you guys are attacking him personally.
I think that there is room for a few suspicious comments here, but I think that
quota has been mostly filled, so rather than engaging in a prolonged war,
perhaps you guys could run your own tournament.

To those who feel the need to complain about the content of this post, please
post complaints to Amir, Don, and I, rather than just posting to one of us.

Amirban@m-sys.com; drd@supertech.lcs.mit.edu; brucemo@seanet.com

Or feel free to make additional responses here.

bruce



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