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Subject: Re: Swiss Test - Ranking

Author: Walter Eigenmann

Date: 07:39:45 11/10/02

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>>01. Gambit Tiger 2.0......30
>>02. Junior 7..............29
>>03. Shredder 6.02.........25
>>04. Fritz 7...............24/4
>>05. Hiarcs 8..............24/2
>>06. Nimzo 8...............23/3
>>07. CM8000/Pillen.........23/2/11
>>08. Pepito 1.55...........23/2/10
>>09. Ruffian 1.0.1.........23/2/8
>>10. Dragon 4.3.2..........22/3/8
>>10. KingOfKings 2.02......22/3/8
>>10. Madeleine 0.1.........22/3/8
>>13. LG2000 3.8............21/3
>>14. Crafty 19.01..........21/2
>>15. Terra 2.9.............20/4
>>16. Mint 2.3..............20/3
>>17. Comet B50.............20/1

>This shows the value of the test.
>Mint is not going to be better than Comet
in every logical test.


What are you talking about??
That's the ranking of an engine TEST, not an engine MATCH!

Let's open your eyes - with an example
(AthlonXP2000, DF7-GUI, 64MbHash)

Wahls - Hübner (11)
3rr1k1/2p2np1/p4bp1/1pn1p3/3N1PP1/2P4P/PPN5/R1B2RK1 w - -

Two moves are interesting:
The "lost" move fxe5? - - and the "draw" move Nc6
(Each program wants to move one of these two possibilities)

What does "Comet B50" (U.Türke) say?

1.Sc6 Td3 2.g5 Ld8 3.Le3 Se6 4.S6b4 Txe3 5.Sxe3 exf4 6.Sed5 Sfxg5
  ³  (-0.27)   Tiefe: 11/34   00:00:41  19408kN
1.fxe5 Lxe5 2.Le3 Sa4 3.Tab1 Lf6 4.Sf3 Td3 5.g5 Ld8 6.Tfe1 c5
  =  (-0.21)   Tiefe: 11/34   00:01:01  28955kN
1.fxe5 Sxe5 2.g5 Le7 3.Sb4 Ld6 4.Lf4 Sed3 5.Sxd3 Sxd3 6.Sc2
  ³  (-0.35)   Tiefe: 12/34   00:02:30  70910kN
1.fxe5 Sxe5 2.g5 Le7 3.Lf4 Sed3 4.Lxc7 Tc8 5.Lf4 Sxf4 6.Txf4 Lxg5 7.Tff1
  ³  (-0.42)   Tiefe: 12/39   00:03:54  109686kN

hmm.....

What does "Mint 2.3" (Ch.Söderström) say?

1.Sc6 Td6 2.fxe5 Sxe5 3.Sxe5 Lxe5 4.Se1 Se4 5.Kh1
  ³  (-0.29)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:31  4857kN
1.Sc6 Td6 2.S2b4 g5 3.fxg5 Sxg5 4.h4 Sge4 5.g5 Sg3
  ³  (-0.51)   Tiefe: 10   00:01:22  13079kN
1.Sc6 Td3 2.Le3 Sa4 3.fxe5 Sxe5 4.Sxe5 Lxe5 5.Tab1 Ld6
  ³  (-0.35)   Tiefe: 11   00:04:47  45320kN

Not bad...

What does "Movei 0.07a" (U.Blass) say?

No comment...

1.fxe5 Sxe5
  =  (-0.02)   Tiefe: 2   00:00:00
1.fxe5 Lxe5 2.Ld2
  =  (0.18)   Tiefe: 3   00:00:00
1.fxe5 Lxe5 2.Ld2
  =  (0.18)   Tiefe: 3   00:00:00
1.fxe5 Lxe5 2.Ld2 Se4
  =  (0.18)   Tiefe: 4   00:00:00
1.fxe5 Lxe5 2.Ld2 Se4
  =  (0.18)   Tiefe: 4   00:00:00
1.fxe5 Lxe5 2.Le3 Sd3 3.b4
  ²  (0.27)   Tiefe: 5   00:00:00
1.fxe5 Lxe5 2.Le3 Sd3 3.b4
  ²  (0.27)   Tiefe: 5   00:00:00
1.fxe5 Lxe5 2.Le3 Se4 3.Tad1 c5
  ²  (0.30)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00  34kN
1.fxe5 Lxe5 2.Le3 Se4 3.Tad1 c5
  ²  (0.30)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00  40kN
1.fxe5 Lxe5 2.Le3 Se4 3.Sc6 Tc8 4.Tad1
  ²  (0.32)   Tiefe: 7   00:00:00  88kN
1.fxe5 Lxe5 2.Le3 Se4 3.Sc6 Tc8 4.Tad1
  ²  (0.32)   Tiefe: 7   00:00:00  130kN
1.fxe5 Lxe5 2.Sc6 Td6 3.Sxe5 Sxe5 4.Lf4 Scd3
  ²  (0.35)   Tiefe: 8   00:00:01  348kN
1.fxe5 Lxe5 2.Sc6 Td6 3.Sxe5 Sxe5 4.Lf4 Scd3
  ²  (0.35)   Tiefe: 8   00:00:01  413kN
1.fxe5 Sxe5 2.g5 Le7 3.Le3 Tf8 4.Sb4 a5 5.Sbc6 Sxc6 6.Sxc6
  ²  (0.32)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:02  908kN
1.fxe5 Sxe5 2.g5 Le7 3.Le3 Tf8 4.Sb4 a5 5.Sbc6 Sxc6 6.Sxc6
  ²  (0.32)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:04  1400kN
1.fxe5 Lxe5 2.Sc6 Td3 3.Le3 Ld6 4.Tfe1 Sa4 5.Tab1 Sc5
  ²  (0.27)   Tiefe: 10   00:00:10  3985kN
1.fxe5 Lxe5 2.Sc6 Td3 3.Le3 Ld6 4.Tfe1 Sa4 5.Tab1 Sc5
  ²  (0.27)   Tiefe: 10   00:00:12  4887kN
1.fxe5 Sxe5 2.g5 Le7 3.Sb4 Sed3 4.Sbc6 Td5 5.h4 Se4 6.Sxe7+ Txe7 7.Tb1
  ²  (0.27)   Tiefe: 11   00:00:40  15890kN
1.fxe5 Sxe5 2.g5 Le7 3.Sb4 Sed3 4.Sbc6 Td5 5.h4 Se4 6.Sxe7+ Txe7 7.Tb1
  ²  (0.27)   Tiefe: 11   00:00:47  18966kN
1.fxe5 Sxe5 2.g5 Le7 3.b4 Sa4 4.Lf4 Ld6 5.Se2 Sb2 6.Sed4 Sbd3
  ²  (0.26)   Tiefe: 12   00:01:40  40084kN
1.fxe5 Sxe5 2.g5 Le7 3.b4 Sa4 4.Lf4 Ld6 5.Se2 Sb2 6.Sed4 Sbd3
  ²  (0.26)   Tiefe: 12   00:02:03  49076kN
1.fxe5 Sxe5 2.g5 Le7 3.Sb4 Sed3 4.Sbc6 Td5 5.h4 Ld6 6.Td1 Lg3 7.b4
  =  (0.24)   Tiefe: 13   00:05:33  134615kN
1.fxe5 Sxe5 2.g5 Le7 3.Sb4 Sed3 4.Sbc6 Td5 5.h4 Ld6 6.Td1 Lg3 7.b4
  =  (0.24)   Tiefe: 13   00:07:55  194318kN


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