Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 08:17:49 11/10/02
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I am only going to say this one more time. There is no useful content in this post other than another attempt to attack a particular member. If you want to keep posting here, stop this _now_. On November 10, 2002 at 08:22:43, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >First of all what Peter Skinner promised around 2000 > - human-computer event with big price money for the > grandmasters. Sponsor were arranged to pay for the > grandmasters. over $100k was gathered for that. > I still can find that email i bet. > > - computer-computer event, directly also world championship computerchess. > of course ICCA might have been involved there. I forgot exactly all > promises there, but what is posted here below is not *near* all the > above needed organisation. > > First thing you need for grandmasters is money, to pay them. The rest > is a peanut to organize. > > A good example is the international blitz championship we organize > at 23 march 2003. I have spoken previous week in a meeting with the > sponsor. > > Only *now* we're going to appoint a tournament director and arrange > the other things. > > Somehow Skinners organisation of a computer-human event was at a childish > level with regard to the most important aspect of a computer-human event. > > He's doing the opposite of all other tournament organizations do. > > Note that this international blitz event we organize for the 20th time > or so now. It's a yearly organisation. About 20 people are involved in > the organisation. > > A small computer-human event is a peanut compared to that. You need more > money though to pay the grandmasters. Our events are a lower budget, which > in europe is a common thing. > > When ICGA gets involved, of course you need to pay $50k to Levy first > to get the title 'worldchampionship' added to an event. However this > year Levy also managed somehow to get kasparov-junior playing (not sure > how much of the work is levy, he's mentionned at the homepage so i guess > he has talked for it). That's pretty much worth the price of $50k ;) > > Vincent Diepeveen > >--------------------------------------------------- >Return-Path: <peterskinner@shaw.ca> >X-XS4ALL-To: <diep@maildrop.xs4all.nl> >Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 19:51:15 -0700 >From: Peter Skinner <peterskinner@shaw.ca> >Subject: Just had to make sure you saw my post. >To: diep@xs4all.nl >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 >X-MSMail-priority: Normal > > This is in response to your shot at me in the thread: Subject: Re: Is the >Crafty-Sjeng match complete? Your right my sponsors at the time were very good >and could be proven: > >1. OA Computer Group unfortuantely has went out of business. They were to lend >computer to participants in return for advertising. At the time they were very >interested. They chose to turn to more of an internet based business and >dropped >off. To bad.. they were a good company. > >2. The FantasyLand Hotel has been renamed to the GalaxyLand Hotel. Gene Kachar >the hotel manager died some months ago.. but I am sure you could find out >information still. They were to be the venue. And the accomodations for the >participants. Alan Ghermazian is the son of the owner of the mall. A personal >friend. He was my contact there. > >3. At the time I stopped working on the tournament, I was having productive >meetings with Marlin Travel to help cover the costs of the European players >coming over. > >4. All the "entry fees" that might have been assessed were going to local chess >groups to have children learn the game. > >I even contacted some of _your_ people that you wanted involved. You know I >did. >I can not remember the names now but you wanted the husband and wife team to >be >tournament directors. Since I was only fooling around I thought I would just >contact them anyway.... just for kicks. > >I even had conversations with Grandmasters about attending to play as well as >give analysis. Alexander Heine off ICC was one of them. > >All in all Vincent.. your right.. I wasn't serious.. and I was just wasting my >damn time. > >I really hope one day we get to meet. I would so enjoy that. > >I would do the one thing that most here wouldn't.. I would kick your sorry ass >all the way back to Europe. > >Peter.
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