Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 13:56:26 11/10/02
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On November 10, 2002 at 16:49:01, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On November 10, 2002 at 11:17:49, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >I am replying upon something skinner posted here *litterary* >where he tells that he wants to kick me back to europe. > >Is that forbidden? > >Did you give him the same warning? > >> >> >>I am only going to say this one more time. There is no useful content >>in this post other than another attempt to attack a particular member. If >>you want to keep posting here, stop this _now_. >> >> >> >> >>On November 10, 2002 at 08:22:43, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>First of all what Peter Skinner promised around 2000 >>> - human-computer event with big price money for the >>> grandmasters. Sponsor were arranged to pay for the >>> grandmasters. over $100k was gathered for that. >>> I still can find that email i bet. >>> >>> - computer-computer event, directly also world championship computerchess. >>> of course ICCA might have been involved there. I forgot exactly all >>> promises there, but what is posted here below is not *near* all the >>> above needed organisation. >>> >>> First thing you need for grandmasters is money, to pay them. The rest >>> is a peanut to organize. >>> >>> A good example is the international blitz championship we organize >>> at 23 march 2003. I have spoken previous week in a meeting with the >>> sponsor. >>> >>> Only *now* we're going to appoint a tournament director and arrange >>> the other things. >>> >>> Somehow Skinners organisation of a computer-human event was at a childish >>> level with regard to the most important aspect of a computer-human event. >>> >>> He's doing the opposite of all other tournament organizations do. >>> >>> Note that this international blitz event we organize for the 20th time >>> or so now. It's a yearly organisation. About 20 people are involved in >>> the organisation. >>> >>> A small computer-human event is a peanut compared to that. You need more >>> money though to pay the grandmasters. Our events are a lower budget, which >>> in europe is a common thing. >>> >>> When ICGA gets involved, of course you need to pay $50k to Levy first >>> to get the title 'worldchampionship' added to an event. However this >>> year Levy also managed somehow to get kasparov-junior playing (not sure >>> how much of the work is levy, he's mentionned at the homepage so i guess >>> he has talked for it). That's pretty much worth the price of $50k ;) >>> >>> Vincent Diepeveen >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------- >>>Return-Path: <peterskinner@shaw.ca> >>>X-XS4ALL-To: <diep@maildrop.xs4all.nl> >>>Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 19:51:15 -0700 >>>From: Peter Skinner <peterskinner@shaw.ca> >>>Subject: Just had to make sure you saw my post. >>>To: diep@xs4all.nl >>>X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 >>>X-MSMail-priority: Normal >>> >>> This is in response to your shot at me in the thread: Subject: Re: Is the >>>Crafty-Sjeng match complete? Your right my sponsors at the time were very good >>>and could be proven: >>> >>>1. OA Computer Group unfortuantely has went out of business. They were to lend >>>computer to participants in return for advertising. At the time they were very >>>interested. They chose to turn to more of an internet based business and >>>dropped >>>off. To bad.. they were a good company. >>> >>>2. The FantasyLand Hotel has been renamed to the GalaxyLand Hotel. Gene Kachar >>>the hotel manager died some months ago.. but I am sure you could find out >>>information still. They were to be the venue. And the accomodations for the >>>participants. Alan Ghermazian is the son of the owner of the mall. A personal >>>friend. He was my contact there. >>> >>>3. At the time I stopped working on the tournament, I was having productive >>>meetings with Marlin Travel to help cover the costs of the European players >>>coming over. >>> >>>4. All the "entry fees" that might have been assessed were going to local chess >>>groups to have children learn the game. >>> >>>I even contacted some of _your_ people that you wanted involved. You know I >>>did. http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?264076 that posting i referred to. >>>I can not remember the names now but you wanted the husband and wife team to >>>be >>>tournament directors. Since I was only fooling around I thought I would just >>>contact them anyway.... just for kicks. >>> >>>I even had conversations with Grandmasters about attending to play as well as >>>give analysis. Alexander Heine off ICC was one of them. >>> >>>All in all Vincent.. your right.. I wasn't serious.. and I was just wasting my >>>damn time. >>> >>>I really hope one day we get to meet. I would so enjoy that. >>> >>>I would do the one thing that most here wouldn't.. I would kick your sorry ass >>>all the way back to Europe. >>> >>>Peter.
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