Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 12:50:28 11/11/02
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On November 11, 2002 at 11:31:46, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On November 10, 2002 at 20:52:44, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >It is a direct reaction upon what he posted here. I quoted that. It was in a different thread. Can't you possibly figure that out. you made the first insult in the thread that started the complaints. Plain and simple. The timestamps are clear. If he insulted you _first_ in another thread, point it out to me and file a complaint. You can't jump from thread to thread and expect me (or anybody else) to figure out that this comment here was made because of that comment over there. This is a threaded message board. It is threaded for a _reason_. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Your right my sponsors at the time were very good and could be proven: > >1. OA Computer Group unfortuantely has went out of business. They were to lend >computer to participants in return for advertising. At the time they were very >interested. They chose to turn to more of an internet based business and dropped >off. To bad.. they were a good company. > >2. The FantasyLand Hotel has been renamed to the GalaxyLand Hotel. Gene Kachar >the hotel manager died some months ago.. but I am sure you could find out >information still. They were to be the venue. And the accomodations for the >participants. Alan Ghermazian is the son of the owner of the mall. A personal >friend. He was my contact there. > >3. At the time I stopped working on the tournament, I was having productive >meetings with Marlin Travel to help cover the costs of the European players >coming over. > >4. All the "entry fees" that might have been assessed were going to local chess >groups to have children learn the game. > >I even contacted some of _your_ people that you wanted involved. You know I did. >I can not remember the names now but you wanted the husband and wife team to be >tournament directors. Since I was only fooling around I thought I would just >contact them anyway.... just for kicks. > >I even had conversations with Grandmasters about attending to play as well as >give analysis. Alexander Heine off ICC was one of them. > >All in all Vincent.. your right.. I wasn't serious.. and I was just wasting my >damn time. > >I really hope one day we get to meet. I would so enjoy that. > >I would do the one thing that most here wouldn't.. I would kick your sorry ass >all the way back to Europe. > >Peter. > > > >>On November 10, 2002 at 16:49:01, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On November 10, 2002 at 11:17:49, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>I am replying upon something skinner posted here *litterary* >>>where he tells that he wants to kick me back to europe. >>> >>>Is that forbidden? >>> >>>Did you give him the same warning? >> >>No, because _you_ did the provoking. Multiple times. I'm interested in >>who starts what. I'm trying to handle moderator email complaints caused >>by your post. >> >>This is a new thread. It is _not_ a reply to something else. Hence the >>explicit direction to "stop now". >> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I am only going to say this one more time. There is no useful content >>>>in this post other than another attempt to attack a particular member. If >>>>you want to keep posting here, stop this _now_. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On November 10, 2002 at 08:22:43, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>> >>>>>First of all what Peter Skinner promised around 2000 >>>>> - human-computer event with big price money for the >>>>> grandmasters. Sponsor were arranged to pay for the >>>>> grandmasters. over $100k was gathered for that. >>>>> I still can find that email i bet. >>>>> >>>>> - computer-computer event, directly also world championship computerchess. >>>>> of course ICCA might have been involved there. I forgot exactly all >>>>> promises there, but what is posted here below is not *near* all the >>>>> above needed organisation. >>>>> >>>>> First thing you need for grandmasters is money, to pay them. The rest >>>>> is a peanut to organize. >>>>> >>>>> A good example is the international blitz championship we organize >>>>> at 23 march 2003. I have spoken previous week in a meeting with the >>>>> sponsor. >>>>> >>>>> Only *now* we're going to appoint a tournament director and arrange >>>>> the other things. >>>>> >>>>> Somehow Skinners organisation of a computer-human event was at a childish >>>>> level with regard to the most important aspect of a computer-human event. >>>>> >>>>> He's doing the opposite of all other tournament organizations do. >>>>> >>>>> Note that this international blitz event we organize for the 20th time >>>>> or so now. It's a yearly organisation. About 20 people are involved in >>>>> the organisation. >>>>> >>>>> A small computer-human event is a peanut compared to that. You need more >>>>> money though to pay the grandmasters. Our events are a lower budget, which >>>>> in europe is a common thing. >>>>> >>>>> When ICGA gets involved, of course you need to pay $50k to Levy first >>>>> to get the title 'worldchampionship' added to an event. However this >>>>> year Levy also managed somehow to get kasparov-junior playing (not sure >>>>> how much of the work is levy, he's mentionned at the homepage so i guess >>>>> he has talked for it). That's pretty much worth the price of $50k ;) >>>>> >>>>> Vincent Diepeveen >>>>> >>>>>--------------------------------------------------- >>>>>Return-Path: <peterskinner@shaw.ca> >>>>>X-XS4ALL-To: <diep@maildrop.xs4all.nl> >>>>>Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 19:51:15 -0700 >>>>>From: Peter Skinner <peterskinner@shaw.ca> >>>>>Subject: Just had to make sure you saw my post. >>>>>To: diep@xs4all.nl >>>>>X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 >>>>>X-MSMail-priority: Normal >>>>> >>>>> This is in response to your shot at me in the thread: Subject: Re: Is the >>>>>Crafty-Sjeng match complete? Your right my sponsors at the time were very good >>>>>and could be proven: >>>>> >>>>>1. OA Computer Group unfortuantely has went out of business. They were to lend >>>>>computer to participants in return for advertising. At the time they were very >>>>>interested. They chose to turn to more of an internet based business and >>>>>dropped >>>>>off. To bad.. they were a good company. >>>>> >>>>>2. The FantasyLand Hotel has been renamed to the GalaxyLand Hotel. Gene Kachar >>>>>the hotel manager died some months ago.. but I am sure you could find out >>>>>information still. They were to be the venue. And the accomodations for the >>>>>participants. Alan Ghermazian is the son of the owner of the mall. A personal >>>>>friend. He was my contact there. >>>>> >>>>>3. At the time I stopped working on the tournament, I was having productive >>>>>meetings with Marlin Travel to help cover the costs of the European players >>>>>coming over. >>>>> >>>>>4. All the "entry fees" that might have been assessed were going to local chess >>>>>groups to have children learn the game. >>>>> >>>>>I even contacted some of _your_ people that you wanted involved. You know I >>>>>did. >>>>>I can not remember the names now but you wanted the husband and wife team to >>>>>be >>>>>tournament directors. Since I was only fooling around I thought I would just >>>>>contact them anyway.... just for kicks. >>>>> >>>>>I even had conversations with Grandmasters about attending to play as well as >>>>>give analysis. Alexander Heine off ICC was one of them. >>>>> >>>>>All in all Vincent.. your right.. I wasn't serious.. and I was just wasting my >>>>>damn time. >>>>> >>>>>I really hope one day we get to meet. I would so enjoy that. >>>>> >>>>>I would do the one thing that most here wouldn't.. I would kick your sorry ass >>>>>all the way back to Europe. >>>>> >>>>>Peter.
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