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Subject: Re: CPU article by the inquirer : Itanium and Opteron contrasted

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 12:53:00 11/11/02

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On November 11, 2002 at 13:03:19, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On November 10, 2002 at 19:39:45, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>
>Look further. there is even evidence on paper here in computer
>magazines where reporters write about the k7 getting 8 capable.

Then you should be able to provide exact links, beyond one vague reference in a
geek.com article.  I read through at least the first 10 pages of Google links on
"k7 8 processor capable" and "k7 smp", and I already reported my data.  All
you're giving me is a bunch of vague references you think you read somewhere.
Give me hard evidence, or admit you're making stuff up (like usual).

>This is a few years ago of course. Short before k7 got onto the
>market.
>
>Of course they have experience now getting it to work dual, so
>that should help them with future SMP releases.
>
>We will see.
>
>I doubt however the times quoted. Any form of SMP into hammer
>will take years to get it to 8 cpu's. If it gets 8 cpu shared memory
>anyway.

Considering they've already had 4-processor Opteron machines running, 8-way
should be pretty easy.  It's planned for next year.

>Even though their design, like that of the K7, allows that.
>
>I see it as a marketing promise simply, marketing people are great
>in promising things. I do not understand why you forgot about these
>K7 promises at all.
>
>It was *hot* news when it was first announced by K7 marketing people.

I already said there was one company developing it, but they got swallowed up by
a bigger company, and the project was probably scrapped.  But I still never saw
anything directly from AMD about 4/8 way K7s.

>>On November 10, 2002 at 16:54:43, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On November 10, 2002 at 10:36:21, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>>
>>>I filled in at www.google.com next keywords:
>>>
>>>K7 8 processor capable
>>>
>>>First link i got there was this:
>>>  http://www.geek.com/procspec/amd/k7.htm
>>>
>>>If you search further you'll see so many articles from around 2000 where
>>>a 8 processor K7 system was promised. Especially 'reviews'. They just
>>>quoted of course what the AMD department promised.
>>
>>I read through several pages of links from that search, and found only one other
>>MENTION of 4/8 way K7 machines.  Supposedly a company called 'HotRail' was
>>developing such chipsets, but they were bought out by Conexant in June 2000.
>>
>>There is nothing even remotely resembling a 'promise' from AMD about 4/8 way SMP
>>systems that I could find.
>>
>>I also tried searching for K7 SMP, which didn't turn up anything useful (99% of
>>the links are about the Linux kernel patches or such).
>>
>>I can imagine that Compaq's official killing of Alpha might have had something
>>to do with 4/8 way k7 boards not being built, since K7 uses the same bus as
>>Alpha EV6, and there was supposed to have been the prospect of sharing
>>motherboard designs.  But this is speculation.



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