Author: Dirk Frickenschmidt
Date: 01:41:10 09/12/98
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On September 11, 1998 at 18:11:10, Thorsten Czub wrote: Hi Thorsten, >On September 11, 1998 at 08:26:42, Dirk Frickenschmidt wrote: > Thorsten Czub had written: >>>Ed's decision has given me a great overheap of pleasure. I want to enjoy this >>>now :-)) >>> >> Dirk asked: >>Why do you enjoy a difficult situation? and Thorsaten answered: >I do not see any difficulties in this situation. It is a pleasure for me. >So i enjoy it. Again: what is so enjoyable about it. When the Fritz autoplayer was missing, you found that terrible and made all kinds of strange remarks about that. But now: no difficulties at all? Did you get used to manual playing and meanwhile find joy in it again? :-) >>When the Fritz5 autoplayer was not made public, I have not enjoyed that. >>I might easily have done so, because I had one, but I didn't just enjoy it. > >We all advised Matthias to make it public. He did not. So he is in charge for >starting the fritz5-hidden-autoplayer-disaster. With all the results. With all >the crazy reactions. Matthias is the beginning of this mess. > >I enjoy that ed gives back the red-card to chessBase... >I like this. > Ed gave no red card to chessbase. He said he wants the SSDF not to accept secret autoplayers and expressed clearly that this would be no measure aiming at Chessbase. Ed also never said that Moritz or Enrique's Fritz autoplayer games were reasons for his decisions. I just read his correction of your false claim. So why do you play your private games like or dislike with these things? All this ranting just to keep your favourite enemy picture alive? I said: >>I opposed wrong criticism and especially some wild and stupid rumors. >>But more than this I did my best to convince relevant people to make the >>autoplayer public again. And you answered: >Aha. Forget about this. It is not anymore important. The ssdf has lost any >credibility. >They have lost their innocence. >It's over. >nothing can bring this old situation back. Its over. Their rules and tesing methods have always been controversial. What is over when and why, concerning SSDF, is hardly decided by any of us. So just wait and see. And perhaps show some more critical empathy. I had written >>You can't quit thinking in categories of "enemy forces", scinece fiction >>metaphors of cyborg threats (as you used to do) and the like, can't you? and you answered: >ChessBorg, right. >I like sf. it has a moral. It has a message. Ethics. Yes, it is oversimplisizing good and bad for us kids :-)) To give us the feeling we are on the right side against the dark forces. I like it as much as you, but I would never forget the limits of this phantasy world and its interpretation of good and bad. >Without killing any barbarians. Just by the topic. >chessbase=capitalism for me. >And i am not the only person thinking this. These simple fundamentalistic metaphors only work in rare cases, where you either meet pure evil or something extremely good. To put Chessbase in such categories is a bit ridiculous. It's just a not too big company with people working there. They do somethings well and some things less well. That's all. I said >>You can't imagine that there is no need at all to define oneself in such >>children cowboy and red indian catgories, can you? You answered: >Pah - indians are not negative in my world. Maybe in yours. In my world the >cowboys are the negative ones. As chessBase is. Capitalists. This is really funny: you thought I prefer cowboys over indians? Not at all. I played both as a child, most times indians. I just wanted to say that for adult people it is not always appropriate to think in these simple enemy patterns: creating enemies by definition so to say... I wrote >>But we are not at war here, not even at any silly ideological war about >>companies or program concepts or programmers. And you answered: >No - there is no war on the world. No conflicts and no problems. >Only a few. Presidents fucking young girls in the white house. Crazy right wing >politicians leading israel. russia losing complete control. Some bombs in >northern-ireland. Some dead people in indonesia. Some conflicts here and there. >Nothing to worry about. haha ! > Once more: what are you reading into what I wrote? I wrote: we are not at any kinds of ideological war about programmesrs or companies here. You answered with citing and interpreting all kinds of political conflicts all over the world. Can't you see any difference between computerchess and serious matters heavily concerning and hurting people? Is it all one big fundamentalistic picture of black and white, wrong and right, allies and enemies? I wrote >>We're just having fun in chess. At least most of us... > >I am having much fun. For example that ed has decided this way. >YOU are the one who has no humor ! >I am laughing. Loud. In Germany we say "Schadenfreude ist auch 'ne Freude", meaning that laughing about problems or damage (in your case the wrongly assumed "showing chessbase the red card") may be a kind of joy, but centainly not the best... If you say I have no humor you may be right in a way: I hope my humor is of another kind... >>--rest snipped-- >> Regards from Dirk
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