Author: bryan whitby
Date: 00:27:58 11/13/02
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On November 12, 2002 at 20:47:48, Keith Evans wrote: >On November 12, 2002 at 15:18:32, bryan whitby wrote: > >>On November 12, 2002 at 13:36:13, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On November 12, 2002 at 03:22:41, bryan whitby wrote: >>> >>>>On November 11, 2002 at 22:02:33, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 11, 2002 at 06:10:32, bryan whitby wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Christophe >>>>>>Obviously you haven't got a Cassio EM500 Pocket PC either. >>>>>>Bryan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Obviously you haven't really tried the Palms. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Christophe >>>>Christophe >>>>This argument is a little silly without proper statistics to back up our >>>>statements. You tell me what Pocket PC chess program you want me to run and what >>>>settings for the Pocket PC and I'll charge the P/PC up and only play chess on it >>>>until the 'low battery' warning message appears. That way we will both know and >>>>Chris Kantack what the true battery life is for my Pocket PC. >>>>Bryan >>> >>> >>> >>>OK, let's do that: >>> >>>set up the initial position of a chess game in, say, ChessGenius. >>> >>>Disable the opening book (if possible). >>> >>>If you cannot disable the opening book, remove white's H1 rook (so the position >>>cannot be found in the book). >>> >>>Start the engine in "infinite" mode, and tell us how much time it thinks before >>>the PocketPC turns itself off (or whatever event happens that tells you that it >>>needs a recharge). >>> >>>I'll do the same on my Palm m505 running Chess Tiger 15.0 for Palm when you >>>report the result and the exact conditions of your test. >>> >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >>Unfortunately, you can't turn off the opening book or select the level to >>infinite with ChessGenius, so I'll be doing my test with the latest Pocket >>Grandmaster. I'll charge up my battery tonight and start the test at work >>tomorrow.In the mean time, maybe you would like to have a look at my web site >>that is dedicated to chess programs that run on the Pocket PC. >>http://www.bwhitby.freeserve.co.uk/ >>Regards >>Bryan > >Do you think that it's a fair test? Do people typically enable pondering on >portable devices? If people typically disable pondering and if the Pocket PC >processer is faster than the typical Palm processor, then it might not be fair >to turn on infinite mode. Let's say that the Pocket PC lasted half as long, but >searched twice as many positions on a charge - what would that mean to end >users? > >Maybe you would want to see how many self play G/30 games could be done on a >charge at a certain estimated SSDF ELO level. Any better ideas? > >Regards, >Keith Hi Keith All this comes from Chris Kantack stating that (on more than one occasion)that you are lucky to play a couple of games on a Pocket PC before the battery goes dead. I replied he was talking crap and Christophe jumped on the bandwagon. In my eyes, this isn't a test to see if a Palm organisers battery can outlive a Pocket PC one but to show that you can play many games on a Pocket PC and not just a couple. Bryan
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