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Subject: Re: Junior8, Fritz8 and Shredder7 predictions

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 04:40:08 11/14/02

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On November 14, 2002 at 02:55:46, stuart taylor wrote:

>On November 14, 2002 at 00:59:54, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>On November 13, 2002 at 10:32:11, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On November 13, 2002 at 01:26:19, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 13, 2002 at 00:41:41, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 12, 2002 at 13:55:34, José Carlos wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 12, 2002 at 13:30:49, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On November 12, 2002 at 02:48:21, José Carlos wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On November 11, 2002 at 22:08:13, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On November 11, 2002 at 19:13:19, John Rice wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I realize these engines are not even available yet commercially, but I'm
>>>>>>>>>>guessing they have been beta testing for some time. For those of you involved in
>>>>>>>>>>the beta testing, or have access to beta results, which of these three engines
>>>>>>>>>>do you expect to top the SSDF? With Deep Fritz 7 and Chess Tiger 15 added to the
>>>>>>>>>>mix, how would you rank all five from top to bottom? Here is my guess:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>1. Shredder 7
>>>>>>>>>>2. Fritz 8
>>>>>>>>>>3. Chess Tiger 15
>>>>>>>>>>4. Junior 8
>>>>>>>>>>5. Deep Fritz 7
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On what is based your guess? Crystal ball? Marijuana?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Do you use crystal ball and marijuana? Or do you think anyone who posts
>>>>>>>>something you don't like is in drugs?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  José C.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's not that I don't like it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's just that rolling dices would be a more scientific method.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But who cares about science here? It's all about impressions and fantasy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Science is part of the fun. Impressions and fantasy are other part of the fun.
>>>>>>None of both parts deserve the accusation of using drugs. Open your mind;
>>>>>>there're more things in the world apart from science.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  José C.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Open your mind too. Never heard about "humour" (or "humor", depending on where
>>>>>you live)?
>>>>>
>>>>>It was an humoristic way for me to say that this prediction was bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>
>>>>Is my prediction (a few posts below) just as BS?
>>>>S.Taylor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Any prediction that includes non-released programs is bullshit.
>>>
>>It depends who makes it and how it is made.
>>A general statement like this is bullshit.
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>Sandro
>
>And just wait and see if I was right!
>Junior 8
>Tiger 15
>Fritz 8
>Shredder 7
>DF. 7
>And CM9K Utzinger very close by.
>S.Taylor

OK, here are my expectations:

Junior 8 = + 60 points over Junior 7
Tiger 15 = + 45 points over CT14
Fritz 8 will be postponed to make it stronger...
Shredder 7 = + 50 points over UCI Paderborn
DF 7 = we know it already. My expectation after seeing some games was 35-40
points stronger than Fritz 7

Now you can guess the resulting SSDF list

Sandro



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