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Subject: Re: Junior8, Fritz8 and Shredder7 predictions

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 09:48:11 11/14/02

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On November 14, 2002 at 07:49:14, Vincent Lejeune wrote:

>On November 14, 2002 at 07:40:08, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>On November 14, 2002 at 02:55:46, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On November 14, 2002 at 00:59:54, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 13, 2002 at 10:32:11, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 13, 2002 at 01:26:19, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 13, 2002 at 00:41:41, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On November 12, 2002 at 13:55:34, José Carlos wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On November 12, 2002 at 13:30:49, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On November 12, 2002 at 02:48:21, José Carlos wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On November 11, 2002 at 22:08:13, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On November 11, 2002 at 19:13:19, John Rice wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I realize these engines are not even available yet commercially, but I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>guessing they have been beta testing for some time. For those of you involved in
>>>>>>>>>>>>the beta testing, or have access to beta results, which of these three engines
>>>>>>>>>>>>do you expect to top the SSDF? With Deep Fritz 7 and Chess Tiger 15 added to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>mix, how would you rank all five from top to bottom? Here is my guess:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>1. Shredder 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>2. Fritz 8
>>>>>>>>>>>>3. Chess Tiger 15
>>>>>>>>>>>>4. Junior 8
>>>>>>>>>>>>5. Deep Fritz 7
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On what is based your guess? Crystal ball? Marijuana?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Do you use crystal ball and marijuana? Or do you think anyone who posts
>>>>>>>>>>something you don't like is in drugs?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  José C.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It's not that I don't like it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It's just that rolling dices would be a more scientific method.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>But who cares about science here? It's all about impressions and fantasy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Science is part of the fun. Impressions and fantasy are other part of the fun.
>>>>>>>>None of both parts deserve the accusation of using drugs. Open your mind;
>>>>>>>>there're more things in the world apart from science.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  José C.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Open your mind too. Never heard about "humour" (or "humor", depending on where
>>>>>>>you live)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It was an humoristic way for me to say that this prediction was bullshit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is my prediction (a few posts below) just as BS?
>>>>>>S.Taylor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Any prediction that includes non-released programs is bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>It depends who makes it and how it is made.
>>>>A general statement like this is bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>
>>>>Sandro
>>>
>>>And just wait and see if I was right!
>>>Junior 8
>>>Tiger 15
>>>Fritz 8
>>>Shredder 7
>>>DF. 7
>>>And CM9K Utzinger very close by.
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>OK, here are my expectations:
>>
>>Junior 8 = + 60 points over Junior 7
>>Tiger 15 = + 45 points over CT14
>>Fritz 8 will be postponed to make it stronger...
>>Shredder 7 = + 50 points over UCI Paderborn
>>DF 7 = we know it already. My expectation after seeing some games was 35-40
>>points stronger than Fritz 7
>
>1 Deep Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2763
>2 Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2742
>
>only 21 points difference ... so you admit that your error margin is 180% ?? ;o)

Yes, but I do not know this program as I do with Shredder and I think it will
gain some points in the near feature as Fritz 7 will loose some.

Sandro
>
>
>
>>
>>Now you can guess the resulting SSDF list
>>
>>Sandro



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