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Subject: Re: which program is good in this position?

Author: Mark Young

Date: 20:13:19 11/14/02

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On November 14, 2002 at 22:09:42, martin fierz wrote:

>i was looking at eduard nemeth's page on computer chess and stumbled across the
>following famous position:
>
>[D]1k6/8/8/8/8/5p1p/PPP5/6K1 w - - 0 1
>
>white is a pawn up but will lose the game. i first saw this position about 20
>years ago when our coach showed it to us as kids - he let us choose which side
>we wanted to play, and we always wanted white of course, being materialistic :-)
>anyway, eduard says on his page that as long as he cared to look, fritz thought
>white was winning. i let fritz7 run over night on my laptop, with the result
>pasted below: it takes fritz over 10 hours on my old P3 450MHz to see that white
>is worse, and after 24 hours the score is not yet showing that white is lost.
>any engines do better on this?


Chess Tiger and Junior find winning scores for black in under 1'.

>
>aloha
>  martin
>
>Analysis by Fritz 7:
>
>1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kc6 3.c3 Kd5 4.a5 h2+ 5.Kxh2 Kc6 6.Kg3
>  +-  (3.91)   Depth: 10/18   00:00:00  58kN
>1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kd6 3.c4 Kc6 4.a5
>  +-  (4.06)   Depth: 11/17   00:00:00  73kN
>1.a4--
>  +-  (3.78)   Depth: 12/18   00:00:00  113kN
>1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kc6 3.b5+ Kb6 4.c4 f2+ 5.Kxf2 h2 6.Kg2 h1Q+ 7.Kxh1
>  +-  (3.53)   Depth: 12/18   00:00:00  128kN
>1.a4!
>  +-  (3.81)   Depth: 13/20   00:00:01  191kN
>1.a4!
>  +-  (4.09)   Depth: 13/20   00:00:01  207kN
>1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kc6 3.a5 Kb5 4.c3
>  +-  (4.13)   Depth: 13/20   00:00:01  227kN
>1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kd6 3.a5 Kc6 4.c4
>  +-  (4.34)   Depth: 14/21   00:00:02  344kN
>1.a4 Kc7 2.a5 Kd6 3.b4 Kd5 4.a6 Kc6 5.b5+
>  +-  (4.13)   Depth: 15/26   00:00:03  596kN
>1.a4--
>  +-  (3.84)   Depth: 16/27   00:00:05  1040kN
>1.a4
>  +-  (3.84)   Depth: 16/27   00:00:06  1083kN
>1.a4--
>  +-  (3.56)   Depth: 17/27   00:00:08  1464kN
>1.a4 Kb7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5
>  +-  (3.50)   Depth: 17/28   00:00:10  1671kN
>1.a4--
>  +-  (3.22)   Depth: 18/30   00:00:12  2366kN
>1.a4
>  +-  (3.22)   Depth: 18/30   00:00:13  2471kN
>1.a4 Kb7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5
>  +-  (3.22)   Depth: 19/32   00:00:17  3585kN
>1.a4--
>  +-  (2.94)   Depth: 20/33   00:00:22  5058kN
>1.a4 Kb7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5
>  +-  (1.81)   Depth: 20/33   00:00:26  6126kN
>1.a4 Kb7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5
>  +-  (1.66)   Depth: 21/36   00:00:38  9266kN
>1.a4 Kb7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5
>  +-  (1.66)   Depth: 22/39   00:01:02  16085kN
>1.a4--
>  ±  (1.38)   Depth: 23/40   00:01:34  24793kN
>1.a4 Kb7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5
>  ±  (1.28)   Depth: 23/42   00:02:56  51884kN
>1.a4 Kb7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5
>  ±  (1.25)   Depth: 24/42   00:04:15  74045kN
>1.a4 Kb7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5
>  ±  (1.25)   Depth: 25/44   00:06:46  116088kN
>1.a4 Kc7 2.a5 Kb7 3.b3 Ka6
>  ±  (1.25)   Depth: 26/47   00:19:01  320992kN
>1.a4--
>  ±  (0.97)   Depth: 27/49   00:38:23  644062kN
>1.a4 Ka7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5 4.c3 Ka6 5.c4 Ka7
>  µ  (-1.22)   Depth: 27/51   10:23:09  13057728kN
>1.a4--
>  -+  (-1.50)   Depth: 28/52   10:42:25  13390390kN
>
>(Fierz, Honolulu 14.11.2002)



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