Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 22:29:06 11/14/02
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On November 14, 2002 at 12:48:11, Sandro Necchi wrote: >On November 14, 2002 at 07:49:14, Vincent Lejeune wrote: > >>On November 14, 2002 at 07:40:08, Sandro Necchi wrote: >> >>>On November 14, 2002 at 02:55:46, stuart taylor wrote: >>> >>>>On November 14, 2002 at 00:59:54, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 13, 2002 at 10:32:11, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On November 13, 2002 at 01:26:19, stuart taylor wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On November 13, 2002 at 00:41:41, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On November 12, 2002 at 13:55:34, José Carlos wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On November 12, 2002 at 13:30:49, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On November 12, 2002 at 02:48:21, José Carlos wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>On November 11, 2002 at 22:08:13, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>On November 11, 2002 at 19:13:19, John Rice wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I realize these engines are not even available yet commercially, but I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>guessing they have been beta testing for some time. For those of you involved in >>>>>>>>>>>>>the beta testing, or have access to beta results, which of these three engines >>>>>>>>>>>>>do you expect to top the SSDF? With Deep Fritz 7 and Chess Tiger 15 added to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>mix, how would you rank all five from top to bottom? Here is my guess: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>1. Shredder 7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>2. Fritz 8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>3. Chess Tiger 15 >>>>>>>>>>>>>4. Junior 8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>5. Deep Fritz 7 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>On what is based your guess? Crystal ball? Marijuana? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Christophe >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Do you use crystal ball and marijuana? Or do you think anyone who posts >>>>>>>>>>>something you don't like is in drugs? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> José C. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>It's not that I don't like it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>It's just that rolling dices would be a more scientific method. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>But who cares about science here? It's all about impressions and fantasy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Christophe >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Science is part of the fun. Impressions and fantasy are other part of the fun. >>>>>>>>>None of both parts deserve the accusation of using drugs. Open your mind; >>>>>>>>>there're more things in the world apart from science. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> José C. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Open your mind too. Never heard about "humour" (or "humor", depending on where >>>>>>>>you live)? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It was an humoristic way for me to say that this prediction was bullshit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Christophe >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Is my prediction (a few posts below) just as BS? >>>>>>>S.Taylor >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Any prediction that includes non-released programs is bullshit. >>>>>> >>>>>It depends who makes it and how it is made. >>>>>A general statement like this is bullshit. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Christophe >>>>> >>>>>Sandro >>>> >>>>And just wait and see if I was right! >>>>Junior 8 >>>>Tiger 15 >>>>Fritz 8 >>>>Shredder 7 >>>>DF. 7 >>>>And CM9K Utzinger very close by. >>>>S.Taylor >>> >>>OK, here are my expectations: >>> >>>Junior 8 = + 60 points over Junior 7 >>>Tiger 15 = + 45 points over CT14 >>>Fritz 8 will be postponed to make it stronger... >>>Shredder 7 = + 50 points over UCI Paderborn >>>DF 7 = we know it already. My expectation after seeing some games was 35-40 >>>points stronger than Fritz 7 >> >>1 Deep Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2763 >>2 Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2742 >> >>only 21 points difference ... so you admit that your error margin is 180% ?? ;o) > >Yes, but I do not know this program as I do with Shredder and I think it will >gain some points in the near feature as Fritz 7 will loose some. > >Sandro >> >> >> >>> >>>Now you can guess the resulting SSDF list >>> >>>Sandro I mean that the final difference will be around 30 points. Anyway I AM NOT INTERESTED TO FIND OUT EXACTLY HOW MANY POINTS DIFFERENCE THERE IS BETWEEN A PROGRAM AND ANOTHER. For me 10-15 points more or less means very little. Today is difficult to see if a version is stronger than another and you are pointing out that the difference is about 14 points? SSDF makes very many games and still leave an error percentage, so how can I be precise 100%? Ciao Sandro
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