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Subject: Re: Autoplayer for Win32 (again)

Author: Amir Ban

Date: 08:06:30 09/13/98

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On September 12, 1998 at 13:22:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:


>
>Again I'm not blaming *you* for anything.  You simply wrote something for
>windows that remained compatible with something that works on DOS.  The
>"protocol" you chose to be compatible with is, however, still ugly.  It has
>too many missing things.  Requires a oddball move format (xboard lets you
>specify SAN or coordinate-algebraic as you wish), and so forth.  *none* of
>which was your fault.  So don't take my criticism of auto232 as a knock on
>you at all.  It is a knock on the "protocol" that is simply lousy...
>
>

Bob,

This "protocol" that you mention is the auto232 protocol. This "protocol"
enables many users to "play" many "games" between "programs" that "support" it.
Among other things, it is responsible for most games on the SSDF "rating"
"list".

This protocol is not without merit. For one it depends on serial interface only,
the simplest and most universal communication. (No, auto232 is not even remotely
dependent on DOS or Windows). Another merit is that people like Stefan have
already done most of the work and are giving everyone the code for free.
Its greatest merit, though, is that it already exists and is already supported
on 20 or so different programs. Which means that you can easily join into the
club and be able to play with everybody else.

The point in your criticism of the protocol is lost on me. Who cares about the
move format, or if it supports SAN or whatever ? As long is it's what the
protocol requires ... Sure you can "improve" it (I think you are really talking
about programming taste and style), but the result will be that no other program
will understand you, because you are not following the protocol, which means you
will not be able to play games, which is *all* we wanted to achieve here.

Perhaps you will be in a better position to criticize the format and to suggest
revisions *after* you've implemented it and understood the implications in
changing the way 20 programs behave (some of them 6 years old or more. What do
you think are the odds of getting a revised version of Mephisto Genius 2 ?).

Amir





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