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Subject: Re: Can a Programming Language Cause Engines to be Slow?

Author: Allen Lake

Date: 15:25:32 11/15/02

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On November 15, 2002 at 17:00:49, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On November 15, 2002 at 14:34:21, Allen Lake wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>At the risk of opening another large can of worms, what I think you are asking
>>this community to think about (in this post and others you've posted here
>>recently) is whether the current state-of-the-art in engine programming is on an
>>optimal track.  In short, are we beginning to reach the point of diminishing
>>returns in trying to improve brute-force search techiques and should we lessen
>>these improvement efforts in favor of a new programming paradigm for chess?
>>
><snip>
>
>Thanks, Allen, for the lengthy and very informative response.  I will try to
>study it carefully later and give a better response, perhaps after others have
>their say about it.
>
>For now, however, I just wish to say that I am not as smart as you think I am!!!
>: )
>
>I would not presume to try to steer this bulletin board!  As I have said many
>times, I am not a chess engine programmer/developer nor a professional
>programmer, and I am simply just not that clever.  But I do find chess software
>to be very interesting and that's why I'm here.

I hope you don't think I was criticizing you in any way.  I find most of your
posts to be quite thoughtful and thought-provoking.  Sometimes, questions from
the perspective of an interested "outsider" is just what it takes to stir the
conventional wisdom enough to encourage a daring person to think outside the
box, and that thinking-outside-the-box is going to be the source of the next
great innovation in intelligent game programming.

Perhaps I read more into your recent posts than you intended, but I still think
that a good many of the topics you've touched on could be easily categorized as
"where do we go from here" and "are we on a dead-end street".  In a community as
technically oriented as this one, those questions often don't get asked until
it's too late, and I'm happy to see these types of questions come up from people
like you, Rolf Tueschen, Marc van Hal, Thorsten Czub, and several others.  To
torture a metaphor, sometimes we are so busy tending individual trees that we
forget to observe the effect of our tending on the entire forest.

<snipped>

>This really is a great bulletin board!

I agree.  I wish I had more time to participate actively here.   I'm glad folks
like you are here more often than I can be, since you ask a lot of the questions
I'd ask if I had the time.

>
>Bob D.

My best to you,

Allen



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