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Subject: Re: From an R.G.C.A post, how long for your program to find h4!!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 15:46:40 11/15/02

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On November 15, 2002 at 15:49:41, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On November 15, 2002 at 14:50:09, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On November 15, 2002 at 14:21:51, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>[Event "USSR verses the rest of the world"]
>>>[Site "Belgrade"]
>>>[Date "1970.??.??"]
>>>[Round "?"]
>>>[White "Larsen"]
>>>[Black "Spassky"]
>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>[ECO "A01"]
>>>[Variation "Nimzowitsch-Larsen: 1...e5 2.Bb2 Nc6"]
>>>
>>>1. b3 e5 2. Bb2 Nc6 3. c4 Nf6 4. Nf3 e4 5. Nd4 Bc5 6. Nxc6
>>>dxc6 7. e3 Bf5 8. Qc2 Qe7 9. Be2 O-O-O 10. f4 Ng4 $1 11. g3
>>>h5 $1 12. h3 h4 $3
>>>{ 2kr3r/ppp1qpp1/2p5/2b2b1p/2P1pPn1/1P2P1PP/PBQPB3/RN2K2R b KQ - bm h4; }
>>>13. hxg4 hxg3 14. Rg1 Rh1 15. Rxh1 g2 16.
>>>Rf1 Qh4+ 17. Kd1 gxf1=Q+ 0-1
>>>
>>>2kr3r/ppp1qpp1/2p5/2b2b1p/2P1pPn1/1P2P1PP/PBQPB3/RN2K2R b KQ - bm h4;
>>
>>Not long. Chessmaster 9000, on a P4-2.66, finds h4 in 54 seconds, and gives it a
>>very convincing score exactly one minute later:
>>
>>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>>0:00	1/3	-0.90	973		1...Nf6 2.Nc3 Kb8
>>0:00	1/4	-0.96	2762		1...Nf6 2.Nc3 Kb8 3.a3 Qd7
>>0:00	1/5	-0.66	14855		1...Nf6 2.a3 a5 3.Nc3 Kb8
>>0:00	1/6	-0.84	41181		1...Nf6 2.a3 Qe6 3.b4 Be7 4.Qa4 Kb8
>>0:00	1/7	-0.69	75331		1...Nf6 2.a3 Qe6 3.b4 Be7 4.Bf1
>>					Qd7 5.Nc3
>>0:01	1/8	-0.73	178404		1...Nf6 2.a3 Qe6 3.b4 Be7 4.Bf1
>>					Qd7 5.Nc3 Kb8
>>0:02	1/9	-0.68	578554		1...Nf6 2.a3 Qe6 3.b4 Be7 4.Bf1
>>					Qd7 5.Nc3 Kb8 6.O-O-O
>>0:07	1/10	-0.81	1666432		1...Nf6 2.a3 Qe6 3.Bf1 Kb8 4.Nc3
>>					a5 5.Ne2 Qe7 6.Nd4
>>0:24	2/11	-0.67	5372139		1...Nf6 2.a3 Qe6 3.Bf1 Be7 4.Nc3
>>					Kb8 5.O-O-O c5 6.Bg2 Bh7 7.Kb1
>>0:54	2/11	-0.90	11951369	1...h4 2.Bxg4 Bxg4 3.hxg4 hxg3
>>					4.Rg1 Rh2 5.Qc3 Qh4 6.Qxg7 Rh1
>>					7.Rxh1 Qxh1+ 8.Ke2 Bxe3
>>1:54	3/12	-1.59	24785497	1...h4 2.Bxg4 Bxg4 3.hxg4 hxg3
>>					4.Rg1 Rh2 5.Nc3 Bxe3 6.O-O-O Bxg1
>>					7.Rxg1 Rdxd2 8.Qxd2 Rxd2 9.Kxd2
>>					Qd6+ 10.Ke1 Qxf4 11.Ne2
>
>A very impressive result.  It took Ruffian enormously longer (albeit on a much
>slower machine that was doing a virus scan):
>
>E:\PROGRA~3\winboard\ruffian>ruffian -h 350M -T e:\h4.epd -t 1800 -p 11
>Hash size 367001600
>Ruffian 1.0.1
>feature done=0
>Loading configuration: ruffian.cfg
>Warning: EGTB_HASH_SIZE changed, default=1048576, newvalue=8388608
>Logfile: Fri Nov 15 11:36:12 2002
>Total hash size 350M
>Initializing tablebases: /programme/winboard/nalimov
>Testing e:\h4.epd, 1800 seconds, extra ply 11
>Testing: test 1   Solution: h4
>   Time: 00:24:04.56(null)
>  Depth   Time  Score    Best line
>   7/15   1.18   1.04    ... Nf6 a3 Qe6 b4 Bf8 Bxf6 Qxf6 Nc3
>   7-->   1.36   1.04    ... Nf6 a3 Qe6 b4 Bf8 Bxf6 Qxf6 Nc3
>   8/18   3.21   0.93    ... Nf6 Nc3 Qe6 h4 Bg4 O-O-O Bf3 Bxf3
>   8-->   3.77   0.93    ... Nf6 Nc3 Qe6 h4 Bg4 O-O-O Bf3 Bxf3
>   9/19   4.89   0.95    ... Nf6 Nc3 Qe6 h4 Rd7 O-O-O Rhd8 Kb1 Kb8
>   9-->   5.77   0.95    ... Nf6 Nc3 Qe6 h4 Rd7 O-O-O Rhd8 Kb1 Kb8
>  10/20   7.86   0.86    ... Nf6 Nc3 Qe6 h4 Ng4 Bxg4 hxg4 O-O-O Bb4 Kb1 Kb8
>  10-->  10.16   0.86    ... Nf6 Nc3 Qe6 h4 Ng4 Bxg4 hxg4 O-O-O Bb4 Kb1 Kb8
>  11/25  18.57   0.82    ... Nf6 Nc3 Qe6 h4 Ng4 Na4 Bb4 Bd4 Rh6 Nc3 Bxc3 Bxc3
>  11-->  27.99   0.82    ... Nf6 Nc3 Qe6 h4 Ng4 Na4 Bb4 Bd4 Rh6 Nc3 Bxc3 Bxc3
>  12/28  47.92   0.80    ... Nf6 Nc3 Qe6 Bf1 Rhg8 O-O-O g5 Ne2 Qd6 Qc3 Nd7
>                         Nd4
>  12-->   1:12   0.80    ... Nf6 Nc3 Qe6 Bf1 Rhg8 O-O-O g5 Ne2 Qd6 Qc3 Nd7
>                         Nd4
>  13/31   2:05   0.76    ... Nf6 Nc3 Qe6 Bf1 Rd6 Ne2 Rhd8 Nd4 Qd7 O-O-O Bg6
>                         Kb1 Bb4
>  13-->   2:48   0.76    ... Nf6 Nc3 Qe6 Bf1 Rd6 Ne2 Rhd8 Nd4 Qd7 O-O-O Bg6
>                         Kb1 Bb4
>  14/32   4:37   0.70    ... Nf6 Nc3 Qe6 Bf1 Rhg8 Ne2 g5 Qc3 Nd7 b4 Be7 Nd4
>                         Qg6 Nxf5 Qxf5
>  14-->   6:34   0.70    ... Nf6 Nc3 Qe6 Bf1 Rhg8 Ne2 g5 Qc3 Nd7 b4 Be7 Nd4
>                         Qg6 Nxf5 Qxf5
>  15/35  11:13   0.68    ... Nf6 Nc3 Qe6 Bf1 Rhg8 Ne2 g5 fxg5 Rxg5 O-O-O Nd7
>                         Bg2 f6 Kb1 h4 g4
>  15/37  17:55   x.xx    ... h4
>  15/37  19:18     ++    ... h4
>  15/37  21:16   1.63    ... h4 Bxg4 Bxg4 hxg4 hxg3 Rg1 Rh2 Nc3 Bxe3 O-O-O
>                         Bxg1 Rxg1 e3 Ne4 exd2+ Kd1 g5 Nxg5
>  15-->  21:26   1.63    ... h4 Bxg4 Bxg4 hxg4 hxg3 Rg1 Rh2 Nc3 Bxe3 O-O-O
>                         Bxg1 Rxg1 e3 Ne4 exd2+ Kd1 g5 Nxg5
>  16/37  27:21     ++    ... h4
>  16...  27:21   1/49    h4
>
>Time: 30:00, cpu 87.93%, nodes 752548428, nps 418063
>Hash: 256M, used 99%, hits 27%
>EGTB: probs 0, hits 0
>
>Best move: h4 (1.98)  Solved (1/1)
>
>Summery: 1/1

Here is some analysis by movei00_778b(1000Mhz,64 mbytes)

depth=14 +0.31 h5h4
Nodes: 129228969 NPS: 149676
Time: 00:14:23.39
depth=14 +0.66 h5h4 e2g4 f5g4 h3g4 h4g3 h1g1 h8h2 e1f1 c5e3 g1g2 h2h1 f1e2 e3f4
c4c5 e7h4 c2e4 h4g4 e4f3 g4f3 e2f3 f4d2 b1d2 h1a1
Nodes: 206858380 NPS: 148013
Time: 00:23:17.56
depth=14 +0.66 h5h4 e2g4 f5g4 h3g4 h4g3 h1g1 h8h2 e1f1 c5e3 g1g2 h2h1 f1e2 e3f4
c4c5 e7h4 c2e4 h4g4 e4f3 g4f3 e2f3 f4d2 b1d2 h1a1
Nodes: 214418957 NPS: 148432
Time: 00:24:04.56

Uri



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