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Subject: Re: Odd that Tiger and Rebel are not there....

Author: Tony Werten

Date: 11:33:21 11/16/02

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On November 16, 2002 at 14:04:38, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 16, 2002 at 13:33:01, Tony Werten wrote:
>
>>On November 16, 2002 at 12:46:00, Lex Loep wrote:
>>
>>>On November 16, 2002 at 05:58:07, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 16, 2002 at 02:41:51, Lex Loep wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 16, 2002 at 00:13:10, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 15, 2002 at 19:13:51, Volker Richey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>more informations at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.vrichey.de/cct5
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Volker
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No authorized operator?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The interface kibitzes..
>>>>>
>>>>>Looking at the list of participants I see there is no competition
>>>>>for tiger. So what's the point in participating ?
>>>>
>>>>Well, have a look at Leiden 2002; ct had lost against points against the
>>>>winboarders and had to rank below 2 of these.
>>>
>>>What do you mean ? This is what I remember
>>>http://lokasoft.nl/uk/chess_tiger_15_in_dutch_open.htm
>>>
>>>Lex
>>
>>Maybe you can also remember the game you saw ? Tiger was very lucky against
>>XiniX. It was at most a draw for Tiger, maybe not even that. Tiger was very
>>lucky against Baron as well.
>>
>>Just looking at the endtable and saying "Tiger had no competition since it won"
>>is not very realistic.
>>
>>Tony
>
>Can you define being lucky?

XiniX had a much better position in the endgame but not much time left. It only
took 6 seconds and produced the only move wich doesn't only give away the chance
for a win but also gives away the draw.

XiniX needs 8 seconds to come to the right move.

Tony

>
>For me being lucky in case of no bugs is not a case when the opponent missed a
>win because knowing to win won games is part of chess.
>
>I think that you can say that a program is lucky if the  opponent outsearched it
>when both sides do not understand the final position when later both programs
>are surprised to find that the result is not what they evaluated.
>
>It happened to an old piece square table version of movei with no hash tables in
>a game against Nejmet.
>
>Nejmet outsearched it and won a pawn only to find that the knight is trapped
>so Nejmet lost the game.
>
>Uri



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