Author: John Merlino
Date: 18:33:51 11/16/02
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On November 14, 2002 at 22:09:42, martin fierz wrote: >i was looking at eduard nemeth's page on computer chess and stumbled across the >following famous position: > >[D]1k6/8/8/8/8/5p1p/PPP5/6K1 w - - 0 1 > >white is a pawn up but will lose the game. i first saw this position about 20 >years ago when our coach showed it to us as kids - he let us choose which side >we wanted to play, and we always wanted white of course, being materialistic :-) >anyway, eduard says on his page that as long as he cared to look, fritz thought >white was winning. i let fritz7 run over night on my laptop, with the result >pasted below: it takes fritz over 10 hours on my old P3 450MHz to see that white >is worse, and after 24 hours the score is not yet showing that white is lost. >any engines do better on this? > >aloha > martin > >Analysis by Fritz 7: > >1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kc6 3.c3 Kd5 4.a5 h2+ 5.Kxh2 Kc6 6.Kg3 > +- (3.91) Depth: 10/18 00:00:00 58kN >1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kd6 3.c4 Kc6 4.a5 > +- (4.06) Depth: 11/17 00:00:00 73kN >1.a4-- > +- (3.78) Depth: 12/18 00:00:00 113kN >1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kc6 3.b5+ Kb6 4.c4 f2+ 5.Kxf2 h2 6.Kg2 h1Q+ 7.Kxh1 > +- (3.53) Depth: 12/18 00:00:00 128kN >1.a4! > +- (3.81) Depth: 13/20 00:00:01 191kN >1.a4! > +- (4.09) Depth: 13/20 00:00:01 207kN >1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kc6 3.a5 Kb5 4.c3 > +- (4.13) Depth: 13/20 00:00:01 227kN >1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kd6 3.a5 Kc6 4.c4 > +- (4.34) Depth: 14/21 00:00:02 344kN >1.a4 Kc7 2.a5 Kd6 3.b4 Kd5 4.a6 Kc6 5.b5+ > +- (4.13) Depth: 15/26 00:00:03 596kN >1.a4-- > +- (3.84) Depth: 16/27 00:00:05 1040kN >1.a4 > +- (3.84) Depth: 16/27 00:00:06 1083kN >1.a4-- > +- (3.56) Depth: 17/27 00:00:08 1464kN >1.a4 Kb7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5 > +- (3.50) Depth: 17/28 00:00:10 1671kN >1.a4-- > +- (3.22) Depth: 18/30 00:00:12 2366kN >1.a4 > +- (3.22) Depth: 18/30 00:00:13 2471kN >1.a4 Kb7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5 > +- (3.22) Depth: 19/32 00:00:17 3585kN >1.a4-- > +- (2.94) Depth: 20/33 00:00:22 5058kN >1.a4 Kb7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5 > +- (1.81) Depth: 20/33 00:00:26 6126kN >1.a4 Kb7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5 > +- (1.66) Depth: 21/36 00:00:38 9266kN >1.a4 Kb7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5 > +- (1.66) Depth: 22/39 00:01:02 16085kN >1.a4-- > ± (1.38) Depth: 23/40 00:01:34 24793kN >1.a4 Kb7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5 > ± (1.28) Depth: 23/42 00:02:56 51884kN >1.a4 Kb7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5 > ± (1.25) Depth: 24/42 00:04:15 74045kN >1.a4 Kb7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5 > ± (1.25) Depth: 25/44 00:06:46 116088kN >1.a4 Kc7 2.a5 Kb7 3.b3 Ka6 > ± (1.25) Depth: 26/47 00:19:01 320992kN >1.a4-- > ± (0.97) Depth: 27/49 00:38:23 644062kN >1.a4 Ka7 2.a5 Ka6 3.b4 Kb5 4.c3 Ka6 5.c4 Ka7 > µ (-1.22) Depth: 27/51 10:23:09 13057728kN >1.a4-- > -+ (-1.50) Depth: 28/52 10:42:25 13390390kN > >(Fierz, Honolulu 14.11.2002) It takes Chessmaster 9000, on a P3-733, 1:59 to give Black the win: Time Depth Score Positions Moves 0:00 4/8 1.49 9403 1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kb6 3.a5+ Kb5 4.c4+ Ka6 5.c5 Kb5 0:00 5/9 1.58 19052 1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kb6 3.a5+ Kb5 4.c3 Ka6 5.c4 Kb7 6.b5 0:00 6/10 1.58 37666 1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kb6 3.a5+ Kb5 4.c3 Ka6 5.c4 Kb7 6.b5 0:00 7/11 1.74 65054 1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kb6 3.a5+ Kb5 4.c3 Ka6 5.c4 Ka7 6.b5 Kb7 7.a6+ Ka7 0:01 8/12 1.74 114016 1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kb6 3.a5+ Kb5 4.c3 Ka6 5.c4 Kb7 6.b5 Ka8 7.a6 Ka7 0:02 9/13 2.07 213911 1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kb6 3.a5+ Kb5 4.c3 Ka6 5.c4 Kb7 6.b5 Kc8 7.a6 Kc7 8.c5 0:03 10/14 2.05 379792 1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kb6 3.a5+ Kb5 4.c3 Ka6 5.c4 Kb7 6.b5 Ka7 7.c5 Kb8 8.a6 0:06 11/15 1.98 684795 1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kb6 3.a5+ Kb5 4.c3 Ka6 5.c4 Kb7 6.b5 Kc7 7.a6 Kb6 8.c5+ Ka7 9.c6 Kb8 0:11 12/16 2.00 1199661 1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kb6 3.b5 Kc5 4.c3 Kb6 5.c4 Kc7 6.c5 Kb8 7.c6 Kc7 8.a5 Kd6 9.a6 0:18 13/17 2.00 2040529 1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kb6 3.b5 Kc5 4.c3 Kb6 5.c4 Kc7 6.c5 Kb8 7.c6 Kc7 8.a5 Kd6 9.a6 0:32 14/18 0.90 3542078 1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kb7 3.a5 Ka6 4.c4 Ka7 5.b5 Kb7 6.a6+ Kb6 7.c5+ Ka7 8.c6 Kb6 9.c7 Kxc7 10.a7 Kb7 11.b6 Ka8 12.Kf2 0:55 15/19 0.70 6016784 1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kb7 3.a5 Ka6 4.c4 Ka7 5.b5 Kb7 6.a6+ Kb6 7.c5+ Ka7 8.c6 Kb6 9.c7 Kxc7 10.a7 Kb7 11.b6 Ka8 12.Kf2 h2 1:59 16/20 -1.86 12060860 1.a4 Kc7 2.b4 Kb7 3.a5 Ka6 4.c4 Ka7 5.b5 Kb7 6.a6+ Kb6 7.c5+ Ka7 8.c6 Kb6 9.c7 Kxc7 10.a7 Kb7 11.b6 Ka8 12.Kf2 h2 13.b7+ Kxb7 jm
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