Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 12:05:13 09/13/98
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On September 13, 1998 at 13:12:52, Bruce Moreland wrote: >I think that since Thorsten is known to be an anti-Fan of Fritz, that he should >take especially careful steps to make sure that he gets the computer set up >right, selects the right book and gets it set up right, and documents the games >so that people can play them through and understand the opening book choices. fritz is installed in the normal way. it gets power-books (chessBase released these books for extra - money). This has 7.500.000 opening-positions out of 450.000 relevant special selected tournament games (says the cover of the cd !). The cover says this books represents the actual opening-theory. The opening book is 555 MB big. In the cd there is written how to install the book. In addition to this i click on the OPTIMIZE button in the opening-book menu. This is not written in the cd-cover and not in the handbook, but i was told it shall OPTIMIZE the book-setting. Sound logical to me. Optimize-button for optimizing book ! >It sounds like Fritz dynamically changes its opening book weights, so it will be >hard to verify the book. I have no 100 or 20 or 30 learning games in the learnfile like the autoplayer-session-fritz5 have. Maybe THIS changes my book not so heavily ?! I am sure the secret-autoplayer-guys have much learned stuff in their learn-files. Maybe they should again install their book to get a similar learning =almost sero learning like i have. Maybe not my book is strange, but THERE book is strange because THEY have learning stuff. Just an idea... >Thorsten should feel free to use it an any configuration as long as he has it I have a witness in my home each time i start a fritz game :-))) He sees LIVE that i began ONE game. He gets a printout of the opening to make sure i cannot play another opening when is is out of my appartment :-))) This witness can guaranty (if you want) that all games have happened ONCE and are not prepaired by playing dozens of games. Is this prophylactical stuff enough to make sure the "critics" calm down ? Or what do they want me to do ? Shall i buy a ATI-ALL-IN-WONDER and tape anything on video for them ? The whole game, especially the sero-bug-behaviour, that they can see it live ?!?! If they want i buy a ATI-card and tape it on video. But only europeans can watch due to the fact the video-signal in us is different. IMO all this MAKE SURE looks a little like paranoical stuff. But if they want... jedem tierchen sein plaisirchen. >set up properly, describes his hardware, and describes the book. You shouldn't >have end-users messing around creating tournament opening books, same as you >shouldn't have them messing with eval-weights, you should use some configuration >that the average user is already using anyway, or the same configuration with an >add-on product installed, in my opinion. I use default stuff. Fritz gets 44MB hash. That is all i can give it from 64MB RAM. >Another issue with book learners. Probably best to run on a clean install so >you avoid this kind of thing. It was a clean install before the tournament began. I will not clean the thing each round. this would be an exception again. I get rid of all the fritz excetions. >Although I'm not sure how Thorsten's machine could have learned from Frans' >machine, unless they are fraternizing while Thorsten is asleep. ?!?! :-))) nice joke. >Pretty much nothing anyone says here is a reason to buy or not buy anything. >Anyone who is paying attention to anything knows that Thorsten is not an >independent, dispassionate tester. He obviously has strong feelings about all >of this, to the extent that people accuse him of influencing games. strong feelings watching the games is one thing. But cheating or manipulation is another quality in morals. >Personally, if I was going to buy a chess program, I would get my information >from a large variety of sources, then choose the one that seemed to be the best >*for me*. >bruce
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