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Subject: Re: path history effect

Author: Georg v. Zimmermann

Date: 03:10:03 11/17/02

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Hi,

The reason why this happens is black seems to be getting worse scores with
increasing depths, so it uses the repetition to push the horizon away.

I dont see it as problem of the hash table. When not using hash tables, couldnt
the same thing happen ?

Or do you want to use the hash table to _detect_ such a symptom ? Interesting
idea..

Georg

On November 16, 2002 at 17:28:46, Gerd Isenberg wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>in this position from Virtual - IsiChess, WMCC99 Paderborn, i noticed probably
>an path history effect with IsiChessMMX:
>
>[D] r3k2r/1q3ppp/p3p3/6P1/1n2pP2/2P5/1P4QP/1R2KB1R b Kkq -
>
>At depth 11 following PV occured:
>
>1.. Rd8 2.cxb4 Qxb4+ 3.Kf2 Qd2+ 4.Kg3 Qe3+ 5.Kh4 h6 6.g6 Qxf4+ 7.Qg4 Qxg4+
>8.Kxg4 f5+ 9.Kf4
>
>with this final position:
>
>[D] 3rk2r/6p1/p3p1Pp/5p2/4pK2/8/1P5P/1R3B1R b k -
>
>At depth 13 a longer PV came up with the same score and the same final position.
>I guess it was a true score hit from the hashtable from the iteration two plies
>before. Instead of 7...Qxg4+ there were two delaying checks before the queen
>exchange took place.
>
>Is it worth to consider and store the distance to root into an hashtable entry?
>But what to do in case of true scores with appropriate drafts, if the stored
>root distance is less the current?
>
>Comments welcome.
>
>Thanks,
>Gerd



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