Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 07:32:11 11/17/02
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On November 17, 2002 at 03:55:11, Volker Richey wrote: this is not going to improve security. it just means you can collect more programs than you normally would. that's not the meaning of a computerchesstournament. the kibitzing on the other hand is a very good idea. this is a 2 line source code change for any commercial entry who didn't kibitz before. the ebbi's auto232 player is not a good idea. you can play at analysis level then with any chessbase product and play any move you want to. openingsbook moves any operator can play very quickly anyway as you see them in your right display. also some participants, without wanting to mention any name, were reconnecting after openingsbook with the ebbi's auto232 player. not a good idea to do that again. we already know for example Ferret can kibitz. DIEP can (and might join too, as i now see i do not have to play dutch competition nor belgium competition that weekend). The chesspartner interface can kibitz too. we know shredder has winboard capabilities (old interface already had a special code to play online with shredder interface at the internet). Chessbase can connect to their own server easily. Peanut to also connect to ICC/FICS or other icses then of course. Obviously if they do not want to do that, then that's their company decision. So creating conditions then to allow them easier to join is nonsense. It's a peanut for them to join if they want to, and programmers *have* to say they want to join. Not Peter Skinner. >On November 17, 2002 at 00:39:52, Peter Skinner wrote: > >>I really find the whole kibitzing of programs, or the fact they _need_ to be >>automated is going to leave out most of the competition. >> >>This of course includes all ChessBase products as well as some amateurs as well. >> >>Can this not be changed? Obviously you can tell when a program is automated by >>how fast it can make the opening moves and such. >> >>The Ebbi adapter for Chessbase works well. I say let the programs that need to >>use it enter. Those that kibitz fine.. if they don't that is fine as well. >> >>To me that rule is rediculous, and is only going to kill this fine tournament. >> >>Can't we change the rules to allow automated programs to participate even if >>they don't "kibitz"? > >Who wants to guarantee that the announced participant also played with the >announced program version? > >Another proposal (for the future): >Why not a MD5-Check. (Message Digest 5 from R.Rivest >http://rfc.sunsite.dk/rfc/rfc1321.html). >The participants sends their executable (not the source code) and the >referee will generate the correspond MD5-Code. The program.exe must be >executable! > >Before a game starts: All registered players send automatically either the >MD5-code or after an invitation by the referee. This code will be compared >by the referee. The code of every participant will be downloadable. > >Volker
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