Author: Bob Durrett
Date: 08:59:01 11/17/02
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On November 17, 2002 at 10:57:38, jefkaan wrote: >> (C in 24 hours) >>Not likely. I tried those books as well, and granted they do give a basic >>understanding of the C language. I went and took some cheap evening courses to understand better, and for the most part I am still confused. Time heals all >wounds.. and C is going to bust you up :) >> >>Just give it time, and don't rush things. > >in line with my own experience; i used to be *good* (and fast) in programming 20 >years ago; now i'm only parttime busy with C, >bought 3 books (didn't read them from page 1 to end though) >and started with modifying and extending MSCP, using a | >freeware compiler from DevC++ (very easy to use for C); >now for every change i made, it introduced about 3 bugs, >and indeed most time was used for debugging (which i just >did by changing, testing, etc.); headaches guaranteed. > >So Bob Durret, you could start by just compiling MSCP2 (Just >look it up in Google), its only one c file, set it (in >the source code) eg. a 7 ply and run in Winboard. Then | >forget it and have a look at TSCP, i would suggest. >Somewhere around there's also a Pascal version ( i compiled it >with Delphi7) but it has a bug (illegal move input). > >Forget about Crafty, much too complicated for a beginner. >Besides TSCP there are some other rather simple C sources, >like GNUchess (old), Faile, and Resp (a new one). >Gerbil and Beowulf are excellent but rather complicated. > >Best line to proceed is probably re-writing TSCP from >scratch, adding things from theory (buy 3 books about >computer chess Which books? >i would suggest, i have only 2); and >plan to use a lot of time; make eg. a 5 yr plan.. >Richard Pijl (Baron) started in this way but is >a smart and experienced programmer; yet the result >of drawing against Tiger in his 2nd tournament >shows this is a good way to start. >good luck, >jefk >PS and now you've read the above, you might >be interested in something else than chess, >eg. Go-Moku, ie 5 in a row (Free Pascal source >available) or Othello (free C source available). >Chess (and maybe also Go) seems to get the attention of >some of the best programmers so you will >probably never feel succesful in this area >(for example, i know i won't, but its not my aim >as i'm more interested in opening theory, eg. | >gambits to improve my own OTB chess as a hobby; >its always funny for example to mate a computer >program on ICC within 20 moves orso, you know :) Thx for the comments. Bob D. Bob Durrett Robert Henry Durrett
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