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Subject: Re: Fritz5 has an unfair disadvantage in mclane's tournament

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 13:20:17 09/13/98

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On September 13, 1998 at 16:01:00, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>
>On September 13, 1998 at 15:46:07, blass uri wrote:
>
>>tiger11.2 is playing in the tournament because Thorsten believed it is better
>>than tiger11.4
>>
>>Tal's best version according to thorsten is playing and not tal's commercial
>>version
>
>This should be remembered, yes.  I'm sure Thorsten has a strong opinion about
>this version in comparison with the released version.  It might not be that
>different though.  I've seen people get all emotional about two different
>versions of my own program, they think, but it turns out to be the same version.
>
>>If he does not use the version he believes is best for fritz5 and he believes
>>Fritz5's powerbook is counter productive this is unfair for fritz5.
>
>It is fair as long as he describes it and doesn't do things to make it play
>differently than it would play if a completely impartial operator was running
>it.  I'm not a Fritz expert.  It sounds like he is running stock Fritz 5 with an
>add-on big book, which he heard was stronger than without the add-on book.  What
>would have been a stronger configuration?  It wouldn't be fair or possible to
>replay this tournament, but if there is a consensus about what he should use in
>future tournaments, maybe he will use that in future tournaments.  Meanwhile, if
>you know what he's using in this tournament, you can make up your own mind about
>the settings.
>
>>I do not know if the powerbook is counter productive(I have not the powerbook)
>>but I am sure that the book that is used in the games is counter productive.
>
>Right.  The question is, is the big wide book a good idea in a tournament like
>this.  Another question is if Thorsten overruled book moves.
>
>You can put one of these answers in each hand and look at them.  Your feelings
>about Fritz, Thorsten, and Murphy's Law will dictate the regard for which you
>hold each of these answers.
>
>If Thorsten is cheating, the roof falls in, there is no truth here, this thread
>is gone, everything is a big mess.
>
>If this is a problem with the "power book" combined with Murphy's law, I think
>it might be interesting to talk about it and investigate it.  Perhaps the Fritz
>guys will learn something, and perhaps those of us who use large auto-generated
>books will learn something.
>
>Rather than impugning Thorsten I would rather try to learn something.

The Powerbook is supposed to be the best book for Fritz 5. So much so that my
autoplayer Fritz 5 refuses to play without it.

Enrique

>bruce



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