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Subject: Re: what is or does "kibitz"

Author: Ulrich Tuerke

Date: 09:57:35 11/17/02

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On November 17, 2002 at 11:08:19, Andreas Herrmann wrote:

>On November 17, 2002 at 00:39:52, Peter Skinner wrote:
>
>>I really find the whole kibitzing of programs, or the fact they _need_ to be
>>automated is going to leave out most of the competition.
>>
>>This of course includes all ChessBase products as well as some amateurs as well.
>>
>>Can this not be changed? Obviously you can tell when a program is automated by
>>how fast it can make the opening moves and such.
>>
>>The Ebbi adapter for Chessbase works well. I say let the programs that need to
>>use it enter. Those that kibitz fine.. if they don't that is fine as well.
>>
>>To me that rule is rediculous, and is only going to kill this fine tournament.
>>
>>Can't we change the rules to allow automated programs to participate even if
>>they don't "kibitz"?
>
>Hi,
>
>i can't find a description of "kibitz" in my english dictionary nor in
>engine-inf.htm.
>I want to parcipate at the CCT-5, so i want to know what this is. And what have
>i to implement in my engine that "kibitz" works.
>
>Andreas

Hi Andreas,

"kibitz" is one of the commands available on the chess servers; afaik it sends a
text string to all people sitting on your table, i.e. who are observing the
game.
There is a similar command "whisper" which also sends the text to all people on
your table however not to your opponent himself. By default, Comet whispers in
case the opponent is a human and kibitzes in case of a computer opponent.
It's in fact quite simple. In C the code is:

printf ("kibitz sc=%s dp=%d nps=%ldK tb=%ld pv=%s\n",
            info, scoreStr, iterationNo, (long) evrate/1000,
            tb_hits, prVar);

I think that there are other, newer commands like tellics. But the above code
works fine.

Uli



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