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Subject: Re: what is or does "kibitz"

Author: Dieter Buerssner

Date: 09:57:44 11/17/02

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On November 17, 2002 at 11:08:19, Andreas Herrmann wrote:

>i can't find a description of "kibitz" in my english dictionary nor in
>engine-inf.htm.
>I want to parcipate at the CCT-5, so i want to know what this is. And what have
>i to implement in my engine that "kibitz" works.

kibitz is one Internet chess server command (ICS, works on FICS like servers,
chess.net and ICC) to communicate with other users. The ICC help says the
following:

--
Command : kibitz
Example : kibitz That was a very good move!

Sends the text to all players and observers of the game you are observing
or playing.  Same as the "whisper command", except that "whisper" goes
only to the observers, not the players.  It's considered rude to "kibitz"
during a serious game, unless the players have told you that it's ok.
--

Perhaps you see the relation with "Kiebitzen" when playing Skat.

As Tim already mentioned, you can log into various ICSes as guest (with or
without your engine). There you can investigate the help files. Also there is a
"help channel" where you can ask questions. Typically friendly people will
answer. On ICC, you would type

tell 1 How can I see all logged in computer accounts?

And soon you will see, that somebody answers like:

Somename(H)1: type who C

From engine point of view, under WB you can use any ICS command by sending
"tellics command [more]" to WB. It will behave, as if you had typed the command
in a console window of the ICS. So when your engine sends "tellics kibitz Hi all
from Holmes", to all observers of your current game will be shown the "Hi all
...".

Many chess engines will (optionally) kibitz their PV, score, time used, nodes/s,
TB-accesse, ... when doing a move (just before or just after the "move xx" to
WB).

Other GUIs (Chesspartner, Chessassistent, perhaps more) can kibitz such info
without the engine using tellics. The user can set up the interface, so that it
will kibitz PVs posted to the GUI from the engine. In this case, no changes in
your engine should be needed (actually I think, those interfaces will ignore the
tellics command).

Cheers,
Dieter



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