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Subject: aha ! so why is it unfair. It isn't ! than stop telling so...

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 13:23:03 09/13/98

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On September 13, 1998 at 16:20:17, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On September 13, 1998 at 16:01:00, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>
>>On September 13, 1998 at 15:46:07, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>tiger11.2 is playing in the tournament because Thorsten believed it is better
>>>than tiger11.4
>>>
>>>Tal's best version according to thorsten is playing and not tal's commercial
>>>version
>>
>>This should be remembered, yes.  I'm sure Thorsten has a strong opinion about
>>this version in comparison with the released version.  It might not be that
>>different though.  I've seen people get all emotional about two different
>>versions of my own program, they think, but it turns out to be the same version.
>>
>>>If he does not use the version he believes is best for fritz5 and he believes
>>>Fritz5's powerbook is counter productive this is unfair for fritz5.
>>
>>It is fair as long as he describes it and doesn't do things to make it play
>>differently than it would play if a completely impartial operator was running
>>it.  I'm not a Fritz expert.  It sounds like he is running stock Fritz 5 with an
>>add-on big book, which he heard was stronger than without the add-on book.  What
>>would have been a stronger configuration?  It wouldn't be fair or possible to
>>replay this tournament, but if there is a consensus about what he should use in
>>future tournaments, maybe he will use that in future tournaments.  Meanwhile, if
>>you know what he's using in this tournament, you can make up your own mind about
>>the settings.
>>
>>>I do not know if the powerbook is counter productive(I have not the powerbook)
>>>but I am sure that the book that is used in the games is counter productive.
>>
>>Right.  The question is, is the big wide book a good idea in a tournament like
>>this.  Another question is if Thorsten overruled book moves.
>>
>>You can put one of these answers in each hand and look at them.  Your feelings
>>about Fritz, Thorsten, and Murphy's Law will dictate the regard for which you
>>hold each of these answers.
>>
>>If Thorsten is cheating, the roof falls in, there is no truth here, this thread
>>is gone, everything is a big mess.
>>
>>If this is a problem with the "power book" combined with Murphy's law, I think
>>it might be interesting to talk about it and investigate it.  Perhaps the Fritz
>>guys will learn something, and perhaps those of us who use large auto-generated
>>books will learn something.
>>
>>Rather than impugning Thorsten I would rather try to learn something.
>
>The Powerbook is supposed to be the best book for Fritz 5. So much so that my
>autoplayer Fritz 5 refuses to play without it.
>
>Enrique
>
>>bruce



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