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Subject: Re: Odd that Tiger and Rebel are not there....

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:55:45 11/17/02

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On November 17, 2002 at 11:59:22, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On November 17, 2002 at 10:48:00, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>
>>On November 17, 2002 at 02:50:30, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>
>>>I think the issue is if Chess Tiger wins, then it's no big deal because
>>>it's the expected result and the competition were 2nd rank engines
>>>anyway (see discussions after NK). If it doesn't win then we get the
>>>'OMG Chess Tiger didn't win! The amateurs are so strong! ChessTiger
>>>sucks/plays too passive/...' stuff.
>>
>>Now there's only "Chess Tiger is a chicken!" ;-).
>
>
>
>Everybody is free to buy it online and check what his homebrew chess engine can
>do against the... Chicken! ;-)
>
>
>
>    Christophe


There is another angle.

Cray Blitz won the WCCC in 1983 and 1986.  By the time 1989 rolled around I
_knew_ who was going to win that event....  Deep Thought.  I didn't have time
to go to that tournament.  Cray couldn't give us machine time.  Etc.

But in thinking about it, I felt that Hsu needed his chance, and if Cray Blitz
didn't show up, it would always "taint" his win, because "Cray Blitz, the two-
time winner didn't play and it would not be clear which was better" would be
the expected topic for years.  As a result, I took time off that I didn't have.
I found a company willing to do without a Cray for a few days so we could use
it to play chess (Cray payed for the time).  And I went and "took my lumps"
along with everyone else.

I personally think it disingenuous to use the "it takes too much time to
prepare" excuse more than once every couple of years.  Some commercial
folks will participate in everything.  Some hardly participate in anything.
If nothing else, that is one disservice the SSDF has dumped on us, because
if a program does well there, then that is enough to keep the program out of
tournaments.

If you look at my history (Cray Blitz), I competed in every event I possibly
could, whether I thought I might win, or knew I would be playing for second
place (after deep thought came along).  I think that is the right way to handle
computer chess participation.

Of course, commercial interests are "different" in general...




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