Author: Uri Blass
Date: 05:35:20 11/18/02
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On November 18, 2002 at 08:22:59, Marc van Hal wrote: >On November 18, 2002 at 07:31:14, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On November 18, 2002 at 06:49:30, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>Nowaday with a piece down against the top five programs Kasparov would never had >>>a chance. >>> >>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=603 >> >>It is possible to beat the top programs with a piece down. >>I believe that humans have no problem to beat top programs without a knight if >>you give them the right to take back moves. >> >>I think that it may be interesting to do a tournament of humans against machines >>with the following conditions: >> >>1)humans can choose to give the machine handicap of a pawn or more than it(they >>do it by using the initial position when white does not have part of the >>material). >> >>2)The machines use exactly 10 seconds per move(the games that were played in the >>kasparov case were blitz) >> >>3)In every round the humans have time of 12 hours to try to beat the machine >>with the maximal handicap that they succeed. >> >>4)Human get points in every round based on the maximal value of the material >>handicap that they can give the machine and still not to lose against it. >>If they draw they get 1/2 point less than if they win. >> >>Examples: >> >>a)If they do not succeed to draw or win the machine without material they get 0 >>points >> >>b)if they can beat the machine without the rook a1 and the pawn h2 they get >>5+1=6 points. >> >>c)If they draw against the machine without rook and a pawn they get only >>6-0.5=5.5 points. >> >>5)machines get negative points and the sum of the points of both sides is 0. >> >>I expect GM's to be able to get more than 3 points against most of the top chess >>programs in these conditions. >> >>It may be interesting to find out what is the best machine against humans in >>these conditions. >> >>We only need a sponsor to organize this tournament. >> >>Uri > >It depends on the position you start from. > >Marc The position that I start from is the opening position when the human with white can choose the pieces to play without them(for example it is possible to choose to play without e2 and d2 or without knight b1). Uri
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