Author: Marc van Hal
Date: 05:56:09 11/18/02
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On November 18, 2002 at 08:35:20, Uri Blass wrote: >On November 18, 2002 at 08:22:59, Marc van Hal wrote: > >>On November 18, 2002 at 07:31:14, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On November 18, 2002 at 06:49:30, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>Nowaday with a piece down against the top five programs Kasparov would never had >>>>a chance. >>>> >>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=603 >>> >>>It is possible to beat the top programs with a piece down. >>>I believe that humans have no problem to beat top programs without a knight if >>>you give them the right to take back moves. >>> >>>I think that it may be interesting to do a tournament of humans against machines >>>with the following conditions: >>> >>>1)humans can choose to give the machine handicap of a pawn or more than it(they >>>do it by using the initial position when white does not have part of the >>>material). >>> >>>2)The machines use exactly 10 seconds per move(the games that were played in the >>>kasparov case were blitz) >>> >>>3)In every round the humans have time of 12 hours to try to beat the machine >>>with the maximal handicap that they succeed. >>> >>>4)Human get points in every round based on the maximal value of the material >>>handicap that they can give the machine and still not to lose against it. >>>If they draw they get 1/2 point less than if they win. >>> >>>Examples: >>> >>>a)If they do not succeed to draw or win the machine without material they get 0 >>>points >>> >>>b)if they can beat the machine without the rook a1 and the pawn h2 they get >>>5+1=6 points. >>> >>>c)If they draw against the machine without rook and a pawn they get only >>>6-0.5=5.5 points. >>> >>>5)machines get negative points and the sum of the points of both sides is 0. >>> >>>I expect GM's to be able to get more than 3 points against most of the top chess >>>programs in these conditions. >>> >>>It may be interesting to find out what is the best machine against humans in >>>these conditions. >>> >>>We only need a sponsor to organize this tournament. >>> >>>Uri >> >>It depends on the position you start from. >> >>Marc > >The position that I start from is the opening position when the human with white >can choose the pieces to play without them(for example it is possible to choose >to play without e2 and d2 or without knight b1). > >Uri
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