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Subject: Re: Verified Null-Move Pruning, ICGA 25(3)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 04:52:17 11/22/02

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On November 22, 2002 at 07:26:02, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On November 22, 2002 at 07:11:20, Uri Blass wrote:
>>It may be interesting if you can post results of deep sjeng at 300 seconds per
>>position and not only at 10 seconds per position.
>>The difference for movei is smaller at 300 seconds per position and I did not
>>use research(I suspect that with research reults may be better).
>I expect it to do better at longer times too of course, for the reason
>pointed out in this thread than it becomes more comparable to R=3. R=3 is
>superior in Deep Sjeng compared to verified R=3, so as verified gets
>closer to R=3, it will do better, but I don't expect it to do
>"better than R=3".
>I have different testing priorities right now because in any case it
>looks vastly inferior to what I am doing now (not R=3 and not R=2/3).
>It would have been nice if it was better than R=2/3, but so far, noone
>reported success...
>>My hardware is AMD1000Mhz so you can use smaller time to get eqvivalent results
>>but clearly more than 10 seconds.
>>You can also see that there is a problem in comparing correct results because
>>some problems that are solved by movei with R=3 are not solved for the right
>>reason and movei may change it's mind later(I showed one case when it did it).
>Not much of an issue considering that there are 183 positions total
>and I average the solution time over at least 115 of then.
>BTW. Uri, since you use ECM-GCP as well, and you've posted corrections,
>I assume you have an improved version. Would you care to email it to me?

I still used the same ECM-GCP that I downloaded inspite of the correction that I
posted because there are not a lot of mistakes.

The main problem is problems that movei solves for the wrong reason so if I do
not get a big change it is not clear from the results which version is better.


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