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Subject: Re: Label the Craftys on ICC

Author: James Long

Date: 11:07:02 09/15/98

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On September 15, 1998 at 12:54:54, Will Singleton wrote:

>
>On September 15, 1998 at 01:53:13, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>>
>>>But, a small suggestion if I might: just *label* the Craftys.  Make
>>>it Fitter(CR), or Thoth(CR), or Whatever(CR).  I think it's a small
>>>change, and it's appropriate for people viewing the "seek" board to
>>>be able to differentiate between Crafty accounts and other computer
>>>accounts.  It would enable a more accurate, and honest,
>>>representation of the state of the server.
>>
>>You can ask for this, but I doubt you'll get it.  If the end-user cares about
>>what computer they play, they'll finger it, and if they don't care, they don't
>>need the extra bit of info.
>>
>
>
>Well, I agree that if I were the only one to ask, it might not happen.
>
>Apparently, both you and Bob agree that it's a serious problem.  Most
>programmers in this group have their programs represented on ICC; I would like
>to get a sense from the group if others consider this an issue worth dealing
>with.

What if we could get ICC to take it another step further.
Not only label the Crafty accounts (CR), but limit the number
that can be logged on at one time.  Set the maximum to five
or eight, or whatever.  This would exclude Crafty itself,
of course.  If they wanted to get really fancy they could
label "bullet Crafties" or "standard Crafties," etc., but
that may be taking it too far.

>
>ICC offers an incredible opportunity for programmers to get real world
>opposition, so as to test and improve their programs.  But the presence of 20 or
>so clones (at any one time) severely limits this opportunity, and causes other
>problems as I have said.
>
>The idea of labeling the Craftys with a (CR) is a small step, and a simple one
>to implement.  I invite others to respond.
>
>-------------
>
>As an aside, one could envision other solutions.  Bob has said he considers it a
>real problem, and would like his Crafty account to be more active.  I wonder if
>it might be possible to add code to future versions of Crafty that would, for
>example, prevent seeks or match offers if a "ping" showed the presence of, say,
>3 other idle Craftys (excepting the real Crafty).
>
>Other possibilites exist, of course.  Future versions of Crafty could be made
>ICC-incompatible, until such time as the clone accounts were reduced by
>attrition.

Modifying code may aid the problem, but anyone with programming
experience could "fix" the code.  Again, I think if there is
a solution to this it lies with ICC, not with Crafty.  If enough
programmers got together we could petition ICC to change their
policy.

>
>Seems like it could be done, if one wanted to do it.
>
>Will



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