Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 12:42:45 09/15/98
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On September 15, 1998 at 12:54:54, Will Singleton wrote: > >On September 15, 1998 at 01:53:13, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >> >>I have often had people ask me what revision of Crafty I am running. I get >>fewer games now because 1) I have to fight for quality players with all the >>Crafties, and 2) I sit idle longer than I used to, so I get disconnected by my >>ISP. >> > >Well, if I can get over 2400 again, I'll set it to match you :) > > >>There is a group called "anti-ACCORDION" (Another Crafty >>Clone of Rather Doubtful Intelligence and Need", you can get more info via >>"finger junk". >> > >No kidding. I'll look into it. > >>> >>>But, a small suggestion if I might: just *label* the Craftys. Make >>>it Fitter(CR), or Thoth(CR), or Whatever(CR). I think it's a small >>>change, and it's appropriate for people viewing the "seek" board to >>>be able to differentiate between Crafty accounts and other computer >>>accounts. It would enable a more accurate, and honest, >>>representation of the state of the server. >> >>You can ask for this, but I doubt you'll get it. If the end-user cares about >>what computer they play, they'll finger it, and if they don't care, they don't >>need the extra bit of info. >> > > >Well, I agree that if I were the only one to ask, it might not happen. > >Apparently, both you and Bob agree that it's a serious problem. Most >programmers in this group have their programs represented on ICC; I would like >to get a sense from the group if others consider this an issue worth dealing >with. > >ICC offers an incredible opportunity for programmers to get real world >opposition, so as to test and improve their programs. But the presence of 20 or >so clones (at any one time) severely limits this opportunity, and causes other >problems as I have said. > >The idea of labeling the Craftys with a (CR) is a small step, and a simple one >to implement. I invite others to respond. > >------------- > >As an aside, one could envision other solutions. Bob has said he considers it a >real problem, and would like his Crafty account to be more active. I wonder if >it might be possible to add code to future versions of Crafty that would, for >example, prevent seeks or match offers if a "ping" showed the presence of, say, >3 other idle Craftys (excepting the real Crafty). > >Other possibilites exist, of course. Future versions of Crafty could be made >ICC-incompatible, until such time as the clone accounts were reduced by >attrition. > >Seems like it could be done, if one wanted to do it. > >Will What I would like to see is *one* official version of each program on ICC, Crafty, Comet, TCB, Phalanx, knightcap, gnuchess, etc. These accounts would be allowed to log on 24 hours per day, 7 days a week. I'd like to see the others restricted. I haven't thought about numbers, but maybe no more than two "clones" of any program logged on at the same time. Or whatever seems reasonable with the typical number of ICC players logged on. If enough of us agree, we could probably talk to Dan Sleator and get him to implement some sort of quota for computers. It might help... Bob
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