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Subject: Re: SSDF(Chess Tiger 15 - Deep Fritz 7)A1200, ?-1?, now 18-16

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 19:44:32 11/24/02

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On November 24, 2002 at 13:20:36, Chessfun wrote:

>On November 24, 2002 at 11:09:48, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On November 23, 2002 at 13:46:33, Jan Kiwitter wrote:
>>
>>>On November 23, 2002 at 13:41:27, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 23, 2002 at 11:01:49, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 23, 2002 at 11:00:04, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 23, 2002 at 08:14:08, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Deep Fritz will have another miraculous return in the last 6 games just like in
>>>>>>>the previous matches. I predict a 21 to 19 in favor of Chess Tiger 15.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pichard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>where is the return, if you predict another 6 draws?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>:)
>>>>>
>>>>>Good point! :)
>>>>>
>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No, I didn't say that I predict 6 more draws, but probably another win or even
>>>>two for Deep Fritz and the remaining draws.
>>>
>>>But then the result cannot be 21-19.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Pichard
>>
>>I'm amazed it's this close.  I have played 25 games of Fritz 7 vs Chess Tiger 15
>>at G/60min and Fritz 7 leads by 18.5-6.5.  Chess Tiger 15 is currently ranked #
>>22 in my standard database after 101 games.  I'm getting miserable results for
>>Tiger 15-normal.  I find it hard to believe it improves dramatically when the
>>time control is raised to 40/2hours.
>>Jim
>
>Going back to beta testing as you may recall, my results even at 40/40 were
>always good, as were others. Also this match is Deep Fritz 7 not Fritz 7.
>
>I also don't see the time control as being too relevant as again from memory
>even at fast blitz Tiger 15 performed better than Tiger 14.
>
>Sarah.

Hello Sarah,
Well if you go back to the beta testing you will see I never did have really
good results.  In fact vs Junior 7 I seem to remember that Tiger got like 3.5
points out of 24 games (7 draws no wins).  It was close to Fritz 7 but never was
ahead of Fritz 7 in my test.  I played over 1000 games and my results were
mediocre especially vs Fritz 7 & Junior.   As I said above Chess Tiger 15 was
ranked # 22 in my database.  That's not very impressive although it contains
only 101 games of Chess Tiger 15-normal.  Since the beta test I have now
swithced to XP2400+ cpus and so far results are about the same.  I'm running
Tiger with either 96M/192M hash and have all 3/4/5 man tablebases.  It also beat
Ruffian by only 14-12.  Ruffian is ranked about #8 in my database now and Chess
Tiger 15 moved up to the 18th spot after some wins vs Hiarcs 8 today.  I don't
like to test at 40/2hrs because it takes too long and besides the SSDF does a
good job at that time control.
Jim



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