Author: Chessfun
Date: 03:22:49 11/25/02
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On November 24, 2002 at 22:44:32, James T. Walker wrote: >On November 24, 2002 at 13:20:36, Chessfun wrote: > >>On November 24, 2002 at 11:09:48, James T. Walker wrote: >> >>>On November 23, 2002 at 13:46:33, Jan Kiwitter wrote: >>> >>>>On November 23, 2002 at 13:41:27, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 23, 2002 at 11:01:49, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On November 23, 2002 at 11:00:04, Joachim Rang wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On November 23, 2002 at 08:14:08, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Deep Fritz will have another miraculous return in the last 6 games just like in >>>>>>>>the previous matches. I predict a 21 to 19 in favor of Chess Tiger 15. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Pichard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>where is the return, if you predict another 6 draws? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>:) >>>>>> >>>>>>Good point! :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Christophe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>No, I didn't say that I predict 6 more draws, but probably another win or even >>>>>two for Deep Fritz and the remaining draws. >>>> >>>>But then the result cannot be 21-19. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pichard >>> >>>I'm amazed it's this close. I have played 25 games of Fritz 7 vs Chess Tiger 15 >>>at G/60min and Fritz 7 leads by 18.5-6.5. Chess Tiger 15 is currently ranked # >>>22 in my standard database after 101 games. I'm getting miserable results for >>>Tiger 15-normal. I find it hard to believe it improves dramatically when the >>>time control is raised to 40/2hours. >>>Jim >> >>Going back to beta testing as you may recall, my results even at 40/40 were >>always good, as were others. Also this match is Deep Fritz 7 not Fritz 7. >> >>I also don't see the time control as being too relevant as again from memory >>even at fast blitz Tiger 15 performed better than Tiger 14. >> >>Sarah. > >Hello Sarah, >Well if you go back to the beta testing you will see I never did have really >good results. In fact vs Junior 7 I seem to remember that Tiger got like 3.5 >points out of 24 games (7 draws no wins). It was close to Fritz 7 but never was >ahead of Fritz 7 in my test. I played over 1000 games and my results were >mediocre especially vs Fritz 7 & Junior. As I said above Chess Tiger 15 was >ranked # 22 in my database. That's not very impressive although it contains >only 101 games of Chess Tiger 15-normal. Since the beta test I have now >swithced to XP2400+ cpus and so far results are about the same. I'm running >Tiger with either 96M/192M hash and have all 3/4/5 man tablebases. It also beat >Ruffian by only 14-12. Ruffian is ranked about #8 in my database now and Chess >Tiger 15 moved up to the 18th spot after some wins vs Hiarcs 8 today. I don't >like to test at 40/2hrs because it takes too long and besides the SSDF does a >good job at that time control. >Jim I remember your results against Junior 7 as it was after the final release and as I recall we had a thread on the subject. As you remember I also tried exactly at the same time as you and posted my 9 games at 40/40 +3 -2 =2. If I also remember your results earlier were much better although there were no changes in the final beta. I even took the liberty of checking and your results against Junior 7 in longish games were; Chess Tiger 15 normal vs Junior 7 @G/60 min 9.5-4.5 @ 40/60 min 7.0-3.0 Taken from your post dated 08-09-2002. Sarah.
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