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Subject: Re: SSDF(Chess Tiger 15 - Deep Fritz 7)A1200, ?-1?, now 18-16

Author: Chessfun

Date: 03:22:49 11/25/02

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On November 24, 2002 at 22:44:32, James T. Walker wrote:

>On November 24, 2002 at 13:20:36, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On November 24, 2002 at 11:09:48, James T. Walker wrote:
>>
>>>On November 23, 2002 at 13:46:33, Jan Kiwitter wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 23, 2002 at 13:41:27, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 23, 2002 at 11:01:49, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 23, 2002 at 11:00:04, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On November 23, 2002 at 08:14:08, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Deep Fritz will have another miraculous return in the last 6 games just like in
>>>>>>>>the previous matches. I predict a 21 to 19 in favor of Chess Tiger 15.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Pichard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>where is the return, if you predict another 6 draws?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>:)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Good point! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No, I didn't say that I predict 6 more draws, but probably another win or even
>>>>>two for Deep Fritz and the remaining draws.
>>>>
>>>>But then the result cannot be 21-19.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Pichard
>>>
>>>I'm amazed it's this close.  I have played 25 games of Fritz 7 vs Chess Tiger 15
>>>at G/60min and Fritz 7 leads by 18.5-6.5.  Chess Tiger 15 is currently ranked #
>>>22 in my standard database after 101 games.  I'm getting miserable results for
>>>Tiger 15-normal.  I find it hard to believe it improves dramatically when the
>>>time control is raised to 40/2hours.
>>>Jim
>>
>>Going back to beta testing as you may recall, my results even at 40/40 were
>>always good, as were others. Also this match is Deep Fritz 7 not Fritz 7.
>>
>>I also don't see the time control as being too relevant as again from memory
>>even at fast blitz Tiger 15 performed better than Tiger 14.
>>
>>Sarah.
>
>Hello Sarah,
>Well if you go back to the beta testing you will see I never did have really
>good results.  In fact vs Junior 7 I seem to remember that Tiger got like 3.5
>points out of 24 games (7 draws no wins).  It was close to Fritz 7 but never was
>ahead of Fritz 7 in my test.  I played over 1000 games and my results were
>mediocre especially vs Fritz 7 & Junior.   As I said above Chess Tiger 15 was
>ranked # 22 in my database.  That's not very impressive although it contains
>only 101 games of Chess Tiger 15-normal.  Since the beta test I have now
>swithced to XP2400+ cpus and so far results are about the same.  I'm running
>Tiger with either 96M/192M hash and have all 3/4/5 man tablebases.  It also beat
>Ruffian by only 14-12.  Ruffian is ranked about #8 in my database now and Chess
>Tiger 15 moved up to the 18th spot after some wins vs Hiarcs 8 today.  I don't
>like to test at 40/2hrs because it takes too long and besides the SSDF does a
>good job at that time control.
>Jim

I remember your results against Junior 7 as it was after the final release and
as I recall we had a thread on the subject. As you remember I also tried exactly
at the same time as you and posted my 9 games at 40/40 +3 -2 =2.

If I also remember your results earlier were much better although there were no
changes in the final beta. I even took the liberty of checking and your results
against Junior 7 in longish games were;

Chess Tiger 15 normal vs Junior 7
@G/60 min 9.5-4.5
@ 40/60 min 7.0-3.0

Taken from your post dated 08-09-2002.

Sarah.




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