Author: Timothy J. Frohlick
Date: 08:30:04 11/25/02
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Peter,
I recall that Christophe was using a 200 to 400 Mhz PII to develop the Tiger.
I am not sure what he is using now. I agree that if a program can find a winning
move on a slow machine very quickly then it is a much better program than a
brute-force program such as Deep Blue.
TJF
On November 24, 2002 at 11:16:22, Peter Skinner wrote:
>My computer account on FICS played three interesting games on FICS last night. I
>was using ChessTiger 14.0, PIII 600, 96 m hash, all 3,4,5 man tbs, Windows XP
>Professional, also with anti-human on. I personally think with the anti-human
>setting on, Tiger is stronger. It does not allow blocked positions no matter who
>it plays. Fritz likes to do this sometimes..
>
>
>[Event "FICS rated standard game"]
>[Site "FICS, Fremont, California USA"]
>[Date "2002.11.23"]
>[Time "22:44:29"]
>[Round "-"]
>[White "huber"]
>[Black "Species"]
>[WhiteElo "2445"]
>[BlackElo "2481"]
>[TimeControl "7200+0"]
>[Mode "ICS"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>
>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nc4 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Ne3 Qf6 7. Qe2 Be6 8. c3
>c6 9. Qc2 c5 10. Bc4 Qd8 11. Bxd5 Bxd5 12. c4 Bc6 13. d5 Nf6 14. dxc6 Nxc6 15.
>O-O Bd6 16. Nd5 O-O 17. Nbc3 Re8 18. Bg5 Bxh2+ 19. Kh1 Be5 20. f4 Nb4 21. Nxb4
>Bxc3 22. Qxc3 cxb4 23. Qxb4 Re6 24. Qxb7 Rb8 25. Qxa7 Rxb2 26. Rab1 Rxb1 27.
>Rxb1 Qd3 28. Qg1 h6 29. Bxf6 Rxf6 30. Rb8+ Kh7 31. Qb1 Qxb1+ 32. Rxb1 Rxf4 33.
>Rb4 Rf1+ 34. Kh2 Kg6 35. a4 Ra1 36. c5 Rc1 37. Qxb1+ Rb6+ Kf5 38. c6 Ke6 39. a5
>f6 40. a6 Kd6 41. c7+ Kxc7 42. Rb7+ Kc8 43. Rxg7 Kb8 44. Rb7+ Ka8 45. Rb6 Rf1
>46. g4 Ka7 47. Rd6 Rf3 48. Kg2 Rf4 49. Kg3 Rf1 50. Rc6 f5 51. Rf6 Rg1+ 52. Kf4
>fxg4 53. Rxh6 Ra1 54. Rg6 Rxa6 55. Rxg4 Ra4+ 56. Kg3 Ra3+ 57. Kf2 Kb6 58. Rh4
>Kc5 59. Rh5+ Kd4 60. Rh6 Ra1 61. Ra4+ Rh7 Rc1 62. Rh8 Rb1 63. Rg8 Ra1 64. Rh8
>Ke4 65. Rg8 Ra2+ 66. Ke1 Rb2 67. Rh8 Rb1+ 68. Kf2 Rb3 69. Rg8 Rb2+ 70. Ke1 Rb1+
>71. Kf2 Rh1 72. Ke2 Rh2+ 73. Rb1+ Kd1 Kd4 74. Kc1 Kd3 75. Kb1 Rf2 76. Rh8 Rg2
>77. Ka1 Kd4 78. Kb1 Rf2 79. Rg8 Ke4 80. Rh8 Kd3 81. Rg8 Rh2 82. Ka1 Kd4 83. Kb1
>Rf2 84. Rh8 Ke4 85. Rg8 Rh2 86. Ka1 Ke5 87. Kb1 Rf2 88. Rh8 Rg2 89. Ka1 Ke4 90.
>Kb1 Ke3 91. Ka1 Rf2 92. Rg8 Rd2 93. Rh8 Rg2 94. Kb1 Kd2 95. Ka2 Kc3+ 96. Kb1
>Rg1+ 97. Ka2 Kd4 98. Kb3 Rb1+ 99. Ka2 Rf1 100. Rg8 Rf3 101. Rh8 Rc3 102. Rg8 Rh3
>103. Kb1 Rh1+ 104. Kc2 Ke4 105. Kb3
>{Game drawn by the 50 move rule} 1/2-1/2
>
>This game surprised me as neither side had an advantage. It was drawn almost all
>the way through. The highest pv I saw from Tiger was +0.53. Also SOS was out of
>book at move 7, Tiger did not leave book until move 14.
>
>Huber is the program SOS, I was using Tiger 14.0.
>
>
>[Event "FICS rated blitz game"]
>[Site "FICS, Fremont, California USA"]
>[Date "2002.11.24"]
>[Time "02:47:06"]
>[Round "-"]
>[White "Topas"]
>[Black "Species"]
>[WhiteElo "2594"]
>[BlackElo "2429"]
>[TimeControl "180+1"]
>[Mode "ICS"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>
>1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. O-O O-O 6. c4 dxc4 7. Na3 c3 8. bxc3
>c5 9. e3 Nd5 10. Qb3 cxd4 11. cxd4 Nb6 12. Ne5 Be6 13. Qb2 Bxe5 14. dxe5 Nc6 15.
>Bd2 Nxe5 16. Rfd1 Qb8 17. h3 Rd8 18. Bc3 Rxd1+ 19. Rxd1 Na4 20. Qb4 Nxc3 21.
>Qxc3 Nc6 22. Rd2 Qc8 23. Kh2 Rb8 24. Qb2 Qc7 25. Qc3 Rc8 26. Nb5 Qb6 27. Rb2 Qa6
>28. Nd4 Nxd4 29. Qxd4 b6 30. Qb4 Rc7 31. Qd4 Qc4 32. Qd8+ Kg7 33. Rd2 Qc5 34.
>Qb8 Rc8 35. Qxa7 Qc1 36. Rd3 Qc2 37. Rd4 Qxf2 38. Rf4 Qb2 39. Qb7 Rc2 40. a4 Re2
>41. Qf3 Qd2 42. Rd4 Qxe3 43. Qxe3 Rxe3 44. g4 Kf6 45. Kg1 Ke5 46. Rb4 Rb3 47.
>Re4+ Kd6 48. Re1 f5 49. Rd1+ Ke5 50. Re1+ Kf6 51. g5+ Kf7 52. Ra1 f4 53. Rf1 Rb4
>54. Ra1 Bd7 55. a5 bxa5 56. Rxa5 Rb1+ 57. Kf2 Rb2+ 58. Kf1 Bb5+ 59. Kg1 Ke6 60.
>Be4 Rb4 61. Kf2 Kd6 62. h4 Rb2+ 63. Kg1 e5 64. Ra1 Be2 65. Rc1 Rb4 66. Rc6+ Kd7
>67. Bd5 Rd4 68. Rc2 Bd3 69. Bc6+ Kd6 70. Rc1 e4 71. Bb7 Rb4 72. Bc6 Rb2 73. Bxe4
>Bxe4 74. Rd1+ Ke5 75. Rd8 f3 76. Rf8 Bf5 77. Rb8 f2+ 78. Kg2 Be4+ 79. Kh2 f1=Q+
>80. Rxb2 Qh1+ 81. Kg3 Qg1+ 82. Kh3 Bf5# {White checkmated} 0-1
>
>
>[Event "FICS rated blitz game"]
>[Site "FICS, Fremont, California USA"]
>[Date "2002.11.24"]
>[Time "02:37:48"]
>[Round "-"]
>[White "Species"]
>[Black "Topas"]
>[WhiteElo "2424"]
>[BlackElo "2598"]
>[TimeControl "180+1"]
>[Mode "ICS"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>
>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be2 e6 7. O-O Be7 8. f4
>O-O 9. Be3 Nc6 10. Qe1 Qc7 11. Qg3 Nxd4 12. Bxd4 b5 13. a3 Bb7 14. Rae1 Bc6 15.
>Bd3 Rae8 16. Qh3 e5 17. Be3 Qd7 18. Qxd7 Bxd7 19. h3 Bc6 20. g4 exf4 21. Bxf4 d5
>22. exd5 Nxd5 23. Nxd5 Bxd5 24. a4 bxa4 25. Bxa6 Bc5+ 26. Kh2 Bc6 27. Bd3 h6 28.
>Kg3 Rxe1 29. Rxe1 g5 30. Bc1 Rb8 31. Be4 Re8 32. Kf3 Re6 33. c4 Rf6+ 34. Kg2
>Bxe4+ 35. Rxe4 Rf2+ 36. Kg3 Rc2 37. Be3 Bxe3 38. Rxe3 Kf8 39. c5 Rxc5 40. Re4
>Ra5 41. Kf3 Kg7 42. Rb4 Ra6 43. Rb7 Kf6 44. Rb8 Ke5 45. Rb5+ Kd4 46. Rb7 Rf6+
>47. Ke2 Kc4 48. Ke3 Rf1 49. Ke4 f6 50. Rb6 Rf4+ 51. Ke3 h5 52. gxh5 Rh4 53. Rxf6
>Rxh5 54. Kf3 Rxh3+ 55. Kg4 Rh2 56. Rf4+ Rb6 Rg2+ 57. Kf5 g4 58. Kf4 g3 59. Rb7
>Kc5 60. Ra7 Kb5 61. Kf3 Rg1 62. Rb7+ Kc4 63. Ra7 Kb4 64. Rb7+ Kc5 65. Ra7 Rf1+
>66. Kxg3 Kb4 67. Ra8 Rf5 68. Ra7 Rb5 69. Kf3 Kb3 70. Ke3 Rb8 71. Kd4 Kb4 72. Rd7
>Rb6 73. Kd5 Rb5+ 74. Kd6 Kc4 75. Ra7 Rb6+ 76. Kc7 Rb4 77. Kc6 Kb3 78. Rg7 Rh4
>79. Rb7+ Kc4 80. Kb6 Rh5 81. Ka6 Rc5 82. Rh7 Re5 83. Rc7+ Kb3 84. Rb7+ Kc2 85.
>Rb4 Rd5 86. Rxa4 Kxb2 87. Rc4 Rd2 88. Rc7 Kb3 89. Kb5 Rb2 90. Rc8 Ka3+ 91. Ka5
>Rd2 92. Rc7 Kb3 93. Rc6 Re2 94. Kb5 Rd2 95. Rc8 Rb2 96. Rc7 Re2 97. Kc5 Kc3 98.
>Kd5+ Kd3 99. Rb7 Rd2 100. Ra7 Ke3+ 101. Ke5 Re2 102. Rf7 Kd3+ 103. Kd5 Rd2 104.
>Rf8 Ke3+ 105. Ke5 Re2 106. Rf6 Kd3+ 107. Kd5 Rd2 108. Rc6 Ke3+ 109. Ke5 Re2 110.
>Rg6 Kd3+ 111. Kd5 Rd2 112. Rg8 Ke3+ 113. Ke5 Re2 114. Rf8 Kd3+ 115. Kd5 Rd2 116.
>Rc8 Ke3+ 117. Ke5 Re2 118. Rc6 Kd3+ 119. Kd5 Rd2 120. Rd6 Ke3+ 121. Ke5 Re2 122.
>Re6 Kd3+ 123. Kd5 Rd2 124. Re7 Rf2 125. Rd7 Ke3 126. Ke5 Re2 127. Ra7 Kd3+ 128.
>Kd5 Rd2 129. Rd7 Ke3+ 130. Ke6 Re2 131. Kd5 Rd2+ 132. Ke6 Re2 133. Ke5 Kf2+ 134.
>Kd5 Ke1 135. Rc7 Rd2+ 136. Ke5 Re2+ {Game drawn by the 50 move rule} 1/2-1/2
>
>In the last two games here, I was surpised at the shear passive play by Fritz
>which cost it both games. The last game Tiger was seeing a pv of -2.34, yet was
>able to easily hang on to the draw. In the first game, Fritz was completely out
>played in the endgame.
>
>Topas is Fritz 8 on an Athlon 1200. Again I was using Tiger 14 on PIII 600.
>
>What is surprising me is I am using a relatively slow computer compared to the
>opposition, yet I have a winning record vs almost everyone I play against. Most
>times I am playing nearly double the hardware, yet win 70% of the games.
>
>To my opponents credit I have been using Tiger for many moons as I was a beta
>tester so I have it pretty much "dialed" in. :)
>
>Peter.
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