Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 12:48:52 11/25/02
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On November 25, 2002 at 15:13:37, John Merlino wrote: >On November 25, 2002 at 14:26:33, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On November 25, 2002 at 12:56:59, Joachim Rang wrote: >> >>>On November 24, 2002 at 23:56:30, Terry McCracken wrote: >>> >>>>[D]8/4p3/4Q3/8/8/k1p3PP/1q3P1K/8 w - - 0 1 >>>> >>>>This is reposted as it was given little attention. >>>> >>>> >>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?266990 >>> >>>yep, Terry is right! You can easily try it for yourself, by let the engines play >>>against themselves. Althoug many engines show a drawish score in the beginning, >>>they realize after a few moves, that white is going to loose. But you have at >>>least give the engines 1 minute per move: >>> >>>Here are a few winning lines: >> >>I don't like that kind of "proof". If white makes a mistake that it doesn't >>understand >>early on, then it loses later. That doesn't mean the loss is forced. >> >>Note that I am not saying that it is not a loss, but I didn't see anything >>forced when >>looking at it myself... >> >>>New game >>>Shootout (Ruffian1) >>> >>>1.Qxe7+ Ka2 2.Qe6+ Kb1 3.Kg2 c2 4.Qe4 Qb5 5.Kh2 Kb2 6.Qd4+ Ka2 7.Qa7+ Kb1 8.Qh7 >>>Qd5 9.Kg1 Kb2 10.Qh8+ Ka2 11.Qh6 Qd1+ 12.Kg2 c1Q+- 0-1 >>> >> >>IE in the above I would play 3. Qd4 after letting crafty search a while here. >>Crafty thinks >>Kg2 definitely leads to a black advantage after a while. IE the score sticks at >>0.00 for >>the queen move I suggested, while it steadily drops after Kg2... > >3.Qd4 is not a legal move in the above line. Do you mean 3.Qe4+? > >jm Let me re-do the analysis. Somehow my analysis for the first position was deleted, and the above comment was _supposed_ to follow one of the later games, not the first one... I didn't save what I was looking at so will have to reconstruct the stuff again. I _think_ the above 3. Qe4 was for the second "game" given but am not sure... Bob
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