Author: David Rasmussen
Date: 01:43:16 11/26/02
[D]r4rk1/1p1n1pp1/1bq1bn1p/p1pp4/2P2B2/1NNP2P1/PPQ2PBP/R4RK1 w - - 0 19 Chezzz encountered this position in a game. This position, and some immediately before and after it, made Chezzz go nuts in quiescence search: time nodes depth score pv 00:00:00.14 52kn 02/02/16 --------------------------------------------------- 00:00:00.14 53kn 03/03/08 +0.055 19. Nb5 a4 20. Nd2 00:00:00.17 66kn 03/03/12 +0.100 19. Rae1 Rae8 20. Nb5 00:00:00.25 88kn 03/04/14 --------------------------------------------------- 00:00:01.37 631kn 04/04/16 +0.205 19. Rae1 a4 20. cxd5 Nxd5 21. Nxd5 Bxd5 00:00:01.78 804kn 04/04/16 --------------------------------------------------- 00:00:02.08 953kn 05/06/16 +0.205 19. Rae1 a4 20. cxd5 Nxd5 21. Nxd5 Bxd5 00:00:02.59 1191kn 05/06/16 +0.277 19. Rfe1 a4 20. Nd2 Rfe8 21. cxd5 Nxd5 22. Bxd5 Bxd5 23. Rxe8+ Rxe8 24. Qxa4 Qxa4 25. Nxa4 00:00:04.14 2020kn 05/06/18 +0.410 19. Qd2 Rfe8 20. Rae1 Red8 21. Qe3 00:00:04.20 2040kn 05/06/18 --------------------------------------------------- 00:00:06.00 3083kn 06/08/18 +0.370 19. Qd2 Rfe8 20. Rae1 Rec8 21. Qe3 Bc7 00:00:07.39 3728kn 06/08/19 --------------------------------------------------- 00:00:11.06 5684kn 07/10/21 +0.483 19. Qd2 Rfe8 20. Rae1 Kf8 21. cxd5 Nxd5 22. Nxd5 Bxd5 23. Rxe8+ Kxe8 00:00:12.47 6313kn 07/10/21 --------------------------------------------------- 00:00:28.12 14Mn 08/11/22 6/48 19. Rae1 Time used: 00:00:30.00 nps: 497701 nodes: 14936023 Q-nodes: 14513023 (97%) move order: 88% hash probes: 112554 hash hits: 26981 (23%) hash usage: 2% pawn hash probes: 14816435 pawn hash hits: 14807848 (99%) EGTB probes: 0 EGTB hits: 0 (0%) 97% Q-nodes!! In the other positions near this, it was the same. 97-98%. I don't have the most brilliant Q-search, but it's not totally naive either. I don't do checks, and I use SEE to order moves and to throw out moves that won't bring the score up close to alpha. In usual middlegames, I see percentages of 10%-40%. So how do your engines do in this positions? What can be done to lower this number? /David
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