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Subject: Re: Interesting test position--Compter ver GM

Author: John Merlino

Date: 08:25:09 11/29/02

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On November 29, 2002 at 04:59:01, Rex wrote:

>RebelRex(C) ver Talion(GM) on ICC.
>
>
>Here RebelRex played 37...b3 for the loss.  How long does it take your computer
>to avoid this move because of the next GM's move 38.Nxg4!!
>
>[D]r7/2q1p3/3pPkp1/2pP1pNp/1pP2Bb1/3BN1K1/rP1R4/4R3 b - - 0 1

CM9000 on a P3-733 never considers b3, and only likes Kg7. After 20 seconds, it
realizes that Nxg4 is coming next anyway, and the eval starts to drop
noticeably:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	-1.80	1879		1...Kg7 2.Bb1 Ra1 3.Nf7
0:00	1/4	-1.80	5862		1...Kg7 2.Bb1 Ra1 3.Nf7
0:00	1/5	-1.77	14399		1...Kg7 2.Bb1 Ra1 3.Nf7 Qb6
0:00	1/6	-1.82	39304		1...Kg7 2.Bb1 Ra1 3.Nxg4 hxg4 4.Rh2
					Rh8 5.Rxh8 Kxh8
0:01	1/7	-1.68	79005		1...Kg7 2.Bb1 Ra1 3.Rh2 Rh8 4.Nf7
					Rh7 5.Ng5
0:03	1/8	-1.68	214930		1...Kg7 2.Bb1 Ra1 3.Rh2 Rh8 4.Nf7
					Rh7 5.Ng5
0:06	1/9	-1.56	434985		1...Kg7 2.Bb1 Ra1 3.Rh2 Rh8 4.Nf7
					Re8 5.Nxg4 fxg4 6.Rhe2
0:20	1/10	-1.37	1570566		1...Kg7 2.Nxg4 fxg4 3.Rf2 Rf8 4.Nf7
					Re8 5.Bh6+ Kh7 6.Bb1 Raa8 7.Bd2
1:02	2/11	-1.13	4929522		1...Kg7 2.Nxg4 fxg4 3.Rf2 Rf8 4.Nf7
					Re8 5.Rh1 Rea8 6.Bh6+ Kg8 7.Bxg6
4:13	3/12	-0.49	21283071	1...Kg7 2.Nxg4 hxg4 3.Rh1 Rh8 4.Rxh8
					Kxh8 5.Rh2+ Kg7 6.Nf7 b3 7.Bh6+
					Kg8 8.Bg5 f4+ 9.Bxf4

>How long does it take your computer to find the GM's move 38.Nxg4
>
>[D]r7/2q1p3/3pPkp1/2pP1pNp/2P2Bb1/1p1BN1K1/rP1R4/4R3 w - - 0 1

After b3, CM9000 sees Nxg4+ after 4 seconds, a draw score after 6 seconds, and
sees a positive score for White after 11 seconds:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
4:13	3/12	-0.49	21283071	1...Kg7 2.Nxg4 hxg4 3.Rh1 Rh8 4.Rxh8
					Kxh8 5.Rh2+ Kg7 6.Nf7 b3 7.Bh6+
					Kg8 8.Bg5 f4+ 9.Bxf4
----	----	----	----		----
0:00	1/3	-1.25	2346		2.Bb1 Ra1 3.Nxg4+ hxg4 4.Rdd1
0:00	1/4	-1.21	5916		2.Bb1 Ra1 3.Rd3 Qb6 4.Kf2
0:00	1/5	-1.37	21550		2.Bb1 Ra1 3.Rd3 Qb6 4.Nxg4+ hxg4
					5.Rdd1
0:00	1/6	-1.30	63400		2.Bb1 Ra1 3.Nxg4+ hxg4 4.Rh2 Kg7
					5.Rh7+ Kg8 6.Reh1
0:03	1/7	-1.65	254771		2.Bb1 R2a4 3.Nf7 Kg7 4.Nxg4 hxg4
					5.Ne5 Ra1
0:04	1/7	-0.39	392728		2.Nxg4+ fxg4 3.Rf2 Kg7 4.Bc1 Rf8
					5.Rf7+ Rxf7 6.exf7 Qd7 7.Bxg6
0:06	1/8	0.00	508777		2.Nxg4+ fxg4 3.Rf2 Kg7 4.Bd2 Ra1
					5.Bc3+ Kh6 6.Nf7+ Kh7 7.Ng5+ Kh6
0:11	1/9	0.62	958399		2.Nxg4+ fxg4 3.Rf2 Kg7 4.Bd2 Kg8
					5.Bxg6 h4+ 6.Kxh4 Kg7 7.Bb1
0:28	1/10	0.99	2220024		2.Nxg4+ fxg4 3.Rf2 Kg7 4.Bd2 Kg8
					5.Bxg6 Kg7 6.Bxh5 Kg8 7.Bf7+ Kf8
					8.Bg6+ Kg7
1:25	2/11	1.23	7244905		2.Nxg4+ fxg4 3.Rf2 Kg7 4.Bd2 Kg8
					5.Bxg6 Kg7 6.Bxh5 R2a4 7.Rf7+ Kg8
					8.Ne4 Rxc4 9.Bxg4
8:42	3/12	1.52	47645171	2.Nxg4+ Kg7 3.Ne5 Qa5 4.Nc6 Qc7
					5.Nf3 R2a4 6.Bg5 Re8 7.Kh3 Ra2
					8.Nh4 Kh7

jm



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