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Subject: Re: test position [no problem except for Tao 5.4]

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 01:49:02 11/30/02

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On November 29, 2002 at 22:47:04, K. Burcham wrote:

>
>GM Huebner vs Luther
>
>17...Qxf1
>
> [D] 2kr3r/pp3ppp/4b3/1p6/1QP2B2/7P/PP2BPqn/R3KR2 b - - 0 17
>
>kburcham

As can been seen below this position is in general no problem for chess
programs. The only exception so far found by me is Tao 5.4:

New game
2kr3r/pp3ppp/4b3/1p6/1QP2B2/7P/PP2BPqn/R3KR2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Aristarch 4.4 (P4 1.8/32 MB hash)

1...Nxf1 2.cxb5 Kd7 3.Rd1+ Bd5 4.Bxf1 Rhe8+ 5.Be2
  -+  (-4.06)   Depth: 2/9   00:00:00
  -+  (-1.88)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00  214kN
1...Bxc4 2.Qc5+ Qc6 3.Qxc6+ bxc6 4.Bxc4 bxc4 5.Rh1 Rhe8+ 6.Be3 Nf3+ 7.Ke2
  -+  (-2.09)   Depth: 6/22   00:00:01  391kN
  -+  (-2.75)   Depth: 6/24   00:00:01  514kN
1...Rhe8 2.Qc5+ Qc6 3.Qxc6+ bxc6 4.Rg1 g6
  -+  (-2.82)   Depth: 6/24   00:00:01  611kN
  -+  (-1.46)   Depth: 9/28   00:00:15  7782kN
1...Nxf1 2.cxb5
  -+  (-1.47)   Depth: 9/28   00:00:18  9286kN
1...Qxf1+ 2.Bxf1 Nf3+ 3.Ke2 Nd4+ 4.Kd2 Nc6+ 5.Qd6 Rxd6+
  -+  (-1.68)   Depth: 9/28   00:00:21  10505kN
  -+  (-1.99)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:35  18582kN

(Utzinger, MyTown 30.11.2002)
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New game
2kr3r/pp3ppp/4b3/1p6/1QP2B2/7P/PP2BPqn/R3KR2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Chess Tiger 14.0: [P4 1.8/32 MB hash)

1...Nxf1 2.cxb5 Kd7 3.Rc1 Ke8 4.Rc7 Bd7 5.Bxf1 Qg6 6.Qd4
  -+  (-2.26)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  144kN
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 10   00:00:05  1923kN
1...Qxf1+ 2.Bxf1 Nf3+ 3.Ke2 Nd4+ 4.Kd1 Nc6+ 5.Qd2 Rxd2+ 6.Bxd2 Bxc4 7.Bxc4 bxc4
8.Bc3 Rd8+ 9.Ke2
  -+  (-1.62)   Depth: 10   00:00:07  2604kN
  -+  (-1.60)   Depth: 12   00:00:32  10661kN

(Utzinger, MyTown 30.11.2002)
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New game
2kr3r/pp3ppp/4b3/1p6/1QP2B2/7P/PP2BPqn/R3KR2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Comet B50:

1...Nxf1 2.cxb5 Qxf2+ 3.Kxf2 Bxh3
  -+  (-2.67)   Depth: 4/24   00:00:00
  -+  (-2.45)   Depth: 6/29   00:00:01  708kN
1...Qxf1+ 2.Bxf1 Nf3+ 3.Ke2 Nd4+ 4.Kd1 bxc4 5.Qc5+ Kd7
  -+  (-2.59)   Depth: 6/32   00:00:04  1870kN
  -+  (-2.59)   Depth: 7/32   00:00:05  2404kN
1...Bxc4 2.Qc5+ Qc6 3.Qf5+ Be6 4.Qe5 Rd7
  -+  (-2.67)   Depth: 7/32   00:00:11  5360kN
  -+  (-2.53)   Depth: 8/32   00:00:15  7178kN
1...Qxf1+ 2.Bxf1 Nf3+ 3.Ke2 Nd4+ 4.Kd1 Nc6+ 5.Ke2 Nxb4 6.cxb5
  -+  (-2.59)   Depth: 8/32   00:00:15  7506kN
  -+  (-2.59)   Depth: 8/32   00:00:15  7506kN

(Utzinger, MyTown 30.11.2002)
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New game
2kr3r/pp3ppp/4b3/1p6/1QP2B2/7P/PP2BPqn/R3KR2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Doctor? 3.0: [P3 1.8/32 MB hash]

1...Nxf1 2.Bxf1 Qe4+ 3.Be3 bxc4 4.Qc5+ Kb8 5.Qxa7+ Kc7
  -+  (-3.52)   Depth: 0/9   00:00:00
  -+  (-3.52)   Depth: 4/12   00:00:00
1...Bxh3 2.Qc5+ Qc6 3.Qxc6+ bxc6 4.Bxh2 Bxf1 5.Kxf1
  µ  (-1.13)   Depth: 4/13   00:00:00
1...b6 2.Bxh2 Qxh2 3.cxb5 Bxh3 4.Rc1+ Kb8
  -+  (-1.48)   Depth: 4/14   00:00:00
1...Nxf1 2.cxb5 Ne3 3.Qc5+ Kd7 4.Qxe3 Qh1+ 5.Bf1
  -+  (-3.52)   Depth: 4/14   00:00:00
  -+  (-2.03)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  42kN
1...Qxf1+ 2.Bxf1 Nf3+ 3.Ke2 Nd4+ 4.Kd2 Nc6+ 5.Qd6 Rxd6+ 6.Bxd6 bxc4 7.Bg2 Rd8
  -+  (-2.49)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  43kN
  -+  (-2.44)   Depth: 9/19   00:00:00  95kN
1...Bxc4 2.Qc5+ Qc6 3.Qxc6+ bxc6 4.Rg1 g6 5.Rc1 Bxe2 6.Rxc6+ Kb7 7.Rc7+ Kb6
8.Bxh2 Rd1+ 9.Kxe2 Rxg1 10.Rxf7
  -+  (-2.64)   Depth: 10/21   00:00:01  175kN
  -+  (-2.16)   Depth: 17/28   00:00:46  6448kN
1...Qxf1+ 2.Bxf1 Nf3+ 3.Ke2 Nd4+ 4.Kd3 Nc6+ 5.Qd6 Rxd6+ 6.Bxd6 bxc4+ 7.Kc3 Kd7
8.Rd1
  -+  (-2.52)   Depth: 17/28   00:00:53  7631kN
  -+  (-2.52)   Depth: 17/28   00:00:53  7631kN

(Utzinger, MyTown 30.11.2002)
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New game
2kr3r/pp3ppp/4b3/1p6/1QP2B2/7P/PP2BPqn/R3KR2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by EXchess 3.11: [P4 1.8/32 MB hash]

1...Nxf1 2.cxb5 Kd7 3.Bxf1 Qf3 4.Be5
  -+  (-3.71)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
  -+  (-2.44)   Depth: 6   00:00:01  248kN
1...Qxf1+ 2.Bxf1 Nf3+ 3.Ke2 Nd4+ 4.Kd1 Nc6+ 5.Qd2 Rxd2+ 6.Bxd2
  -+  (-2.52)   Depth: 6   00:00:01  262kN
  -+  (-2.75)   Depth: 10   00:00:11  4932kN

(Utzinger, MyTown 30.11.2002)
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New game
2kr3r/pp3ppp/4b3/1p6/1QP2B2/7P/PP2BPqn/R3KR2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Hagrid 0.7.56: [P4 1.8/32 MB hash]

1...Nxf1 2.cxb5 Bxa2 3.Rc1+ Kd7 4.Rc7+ Ke6 5.Qe7+ Kd5 6.Bxf1
  -+  (-3.36)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
  -+  (-3.28)   Depth: 6/14   00:00:00  184kN
1...Rhe8 2.Bxh2 Qxh2 3.Qxb5 Bxh3 4.Qc5+ Kb8 5.Qh5 f6
  -+  (-3.29)   Depth: 6/14   00:00:01  260kN
  -+  (-3.45)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:04  489kN
1...Qxf1+ 2.Bxf1 Nf3+ 3.Ke2 Nd4+ 4.Kd1 Nc6+ 5.Qd2 Rxd2+ 6.Bxd2 Bxc4 7.Bg2 Rd8
8.Ke1 Nd4
  -+  (-3.40)   Depth: 8/20   00:00:11  2408kN
  -+  (-3.56)   Depth: 10/22   00:00:37  17289kN

(Utzinger, MyTown 30.11.2002)
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New game
2kr3r/pp3ppp/4b3/1p6/1QP2B2/7P/PP2BPqn/R3KR2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Junior 6.0: (P4 1.8/32 MB hash)

1...bxc4 2.Qc5+ Qc6 3.Qxc6+ bxc6 4.Bxh2
  ±  (1.04)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1...Nxf1 2.cxb5 Rd7 3.Bxf1 Qf3 4.Rc1+ Kd8 5.Bc7+ Ke8 6.Qc5
  -+  (-2.77)   Depth: 3   00:00:00  1kN
  µ  (-1.17)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  171kN
1...Qxf1+ 2.Bxf1 Nf3+ 3.Ke2 Nd4+ 4.Kd1 Nc6+ 5.Qd2 Rxd2+ 6.Kxd2 Rd8+ 7.Kc3 Bxc4
8.a3 Bxf1 9.Rxf1 Rd4 10.Be3 Re4
  µ  (-1.22)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  193kN
  -+  (-1.42)   Depth: 14   00:00:18  17667kN

(Utzinger, MyTown 30.11.2002)
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New game
2kr3r/pp3ppp/4b3/1p6/1QP2B2/7P/PP2BPqn/R3KR2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Tao 5.4: [P4 1.8/32 MB hash)

1...Nxf1 2.cxb5 Kd7 3.Bxf1 Qf3 4.Rd1+ Ke8 5.Rxd8+ Kxd8 6.Qd4+ Kc8 7.Qxg7
  -+  (-3.33)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
  -+  (-1.42)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:03  996kN
1...Qxf1+ 2.Bxf1 Nf3+ 3.Ke2 Nd4+ 4.Kd2 Nc6+ 5.Qd6 Rxd6+ 6.Bxd6 bxc4 7.Rd1 Rd8
8.Ke3
  -+  (-1.42)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:03  1075kN
  -+  (-1.61)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:08  2539kN
1...Bxc4 2.Qc5+ Qc6 3.Qf5+ Be6 4.Qe5 f6 5.Qb8+ Kd7 6.Rd1+ Ke7 7.Rxd8 Rxd8
  -+  (-1.61)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:11  3739kN
  -+  (-1.70)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:13  4375kN
1...Rhe8 2.Qc5+ Qc6 3.Qxc6+ bxc6 4.Rh1 Nf3+ 5.Bxf3 Bg4+ 6.Be3 Bxf3 7.Rg1 g6
8.cxb5 cxb5
  -+  (-1.70)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:18  6203kN
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 9/18   00:00:25  8565kN
1...Qxf1+ 2.Bxf1 Nf3+ 3.Ke2 Nd4+ 4.Kd3 Nc6+ 5.Qd6 Rxd6+ 6.Bxd6 bxc4+ 7.Kc3 Rd8
8.Rd1 f6 9.Bg2
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 9/18   00:00:26  8933kN
  -+  (-1.47)   Depth: 9/18   00:00:32  11378kN
1...Nxf1 2.cxb5 Rd7 3.Bxf1 Qf3 4.Rc1+ Kd8 5.Be3 Re8 6.Qc3 Qe4 7.Qc8+ Ke7 8.Qc5+
Kf6 9.Qxa7
  -+  (-1.47)   Depth: 9/18   00:01:21  25988kN
  -+  (-1.86)   Depth: 11/22   00:07:44  149987kN

(Utzinger, MyTown 30.11.2002)
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