Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 19:19:16 12/01/02
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On December 01, 2002 at 12:57:51, Aaron Gordon wrote: >On December 01, 2002 at 12:28:38, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On December 01, 2002 at 05:03:00, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>Also a comparison of the new AMD XP 2600+ Vs Intel P4 2.53 Ghz ! >>> >>>http://www17.tomshardware.com/cpu/02q3/020821/athlonxp-04.html >> >> >>That just highlights what others have said before. AMD has a memory >>bottleneck that is hurting them significantly in the war with Intel... > >Hyatt, it's not nearly as bad as you think. It happens I have a KT333 chipset on >an Epox 8K5A2. I'm running "Turbo" settings in the bios (but running CL2.5 >instead of CL2(cl2=faster)) and I'm getting 2.5gb/s. So? That is about 1/4 what the PIV xeon can do. Go to tom's hardware page and you'll find some interesting comparisons... > >This just proves once again Tom is a bad reviewer. There's already proof out he >faked a Pentium4 review and I have proof he hinders Athlons (by setting their >bios settings to the absolute lowest setting). The KT333 set to "turbo" has an >efficiency of 94%, this means out of 2.7GB/s max theoretical bandwidth at >166fsb(333DDR) it does 2538MB/s. Since mine is CL2.5 I'm only running 90% >efficiency (2430mb/s). With Nforce2 boards and running 200+ fsb you can get over >3gb/s on an Athlon easily. Same with the Epox 8K9A2. Again, that is _still_ slow compared to the PIV xeon numbers with (say) the E7501 chipset... > >Tom however is managing a horrible 74%. You can do better than this even setting >the settings to 'normal'. He has disabled other options to get the benchmarks >THAT low. 26% below regular 166fsb(333DDR) scores is pretty bad. >Even your average KT266a/333/400 board at 133fsb gets about 2gb/s. > >About the faked review he did.. it's the "Hot contraband P4-3.6GHz". He used a >Pentium4 2GHz CPU and cut&pasted some of the 3's to make it look like a 3.3GHz >P4. The picture is STILL on his page. Just go look at that article and save the >large P4 picture. Go into an image editing program and go near the bottom where >it says "80531PC3.3G0K". Drag a selection box around the second three in that >line and copy it, invert the colors and then drag that over the other three. You >will see a black box where the colors match EXACTLY. This was a cut & paste job. > >Tom isn't the only corrupt reviewer, either. I'm not going to debate that. Tom's hardware isn't the only place that is doing these measurements. There are some well-known academics that are interested in various benchmarks like streams, linpack, etc...
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