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Subject: Re: Computers Still Lack Imagination ...

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 07:10:30 12/02/02

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On December 01, 2002 at 22:30:12, John Merlino wrote:

>On December 01, 2002 at 13:09:10, Art Basham wrote:
>
>>Here is the game that I won this past week on the internet...
>>
>>1.f4 e6 2.Nf3 d5 3.d4 c5 4.e3 Nc6 5.Bb5 Bd7 6.0-0 a6 7.Bd3 Qb6 8.dxc5 Bxc5 9.Qe1
>>d4 10.e4 Nh6 11.h3 0-0-0 12.Kh1 Rde8 13.Na3 Bxa3 14.bxa3 f5 15.e5 g6 16.Bd2 Qa7
>>17.Rb1 Kd8 18.Ng5 Ref8 19.Ba5+ Kc8 20.Bb6 Qa8 21.Bc5 Re8 22.Rb6! Kc7 23.Qb1 Kc8
>>24.Bd6 Nd8 25.Bxa6 Bc6 26.Bb5 Bxb5 27.Qxb5 Nc6 28.Rb1 Nd8 29.Qc4+ Kd7 Tunroc
>>abandonne  (Lag: Av=0.82s, max=1.5s)[29...Nc6 30.Nxe6 Qa5 31.Rxc6+ bxc6 32.Qxc6+
>>Qc7 33.Qxc7#]  1-0
>>
>>The way I see it...
>>
>>Most computer progtams (at move 22) will play Qh4..? when I played Rb6...! and
>>seized control of the  open b file and won!
>>
>>That is because computers still lack "imagination" and still cannot "make a
>>plan" for a winning position and attack at move 22...etc.
>>
>>Moving the Queen to the wrong side of the board wins the knight, but
>>does not attack the King...etc.
>>regards
>>Art
>
>You just posted this position yesterday, making the same claim that computers
>"miss this completely". Now you say that computers "lack imagination" (which
>they do, OBVIOUSLY -- think about it).
>
>What you once again fail to understand (despite at least three posts stating
>this) is that Qh4 also wins, and that this position is not valid as a test. You
>played a good move, and many computers also choose a different GOOD MOVE. Just
>because computers don't agree with you doesn't make them wrong.
>
>jm

But, jm, you miss the real issue here.  It is a matter of "beauty."  He says the
computer's move was ugly.  Need to focus on the real issue here!  A move can win
and still not get the brilliancy [i.e. beauty] prize.  : )

Bob D.



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