Author: Art Basham
Date: 07:14:27 12/02/02
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Hi John... Please remember that you requested me to post the complte game.. I reposted it again so that more people could see it... I did not say that 22. Qa4 was a "wrong move" at all... I just meant to say that there is "more to chess" than winning all the time by "brute force" (or by going after material) etc. just to win and have a high rateing, etc. There is also sometimes an "artistic" way to win.. and that is what (I think) the chess programs still lack... None of them are (as yet) able to "visualize" a winning position, and then aim for it, or "plan for it" in the middle of a game...etc. Regards.. Art ================= On December 01, 2002 at 22:30:12, John Merlino wrote: >On December 01, 2002 at 13:09:10, Art Basham wrote: > >>Here is the game that I won this past week on the internet... >> >>1.f4 e6 2.Nf3 d5 3.d4 c5 4.e3 Nc6 5.Bb5 Bd7 6.0-0 a6 7.Bd3 Qb6 8.dxc5 Bxc5 9.Qe1 >>d4 10.e4 Nh6 11.h3 0-0-0 12.Kh1 Rde8 13.Na3 Bxa3 14.bxa3 f5 15.e5 g6 16.Bd2 Qa7 >>17.Rb1 Kd8 18.Ng5 Ref8 19.Ba5+ Kc8 20.Bb6 Qa8 21.Bc5 Re8 22.Rb6! Kc7 23.Qb1 Kc8 >>24.Bd6 Nd8 25.Bxa6 Bc6 26.Bb5 Bxb5 27.Qxb5 Nc6 28.Rb1 Nd8 29.Qc4+ Kd7 Tunroc >>abandonne (Lag: Av=0.82s, max=1.5s)[29...Nc6 30.Nxe6 Qa5 31.Rxc6+ bxc6 32.Qxc6+ >>Qc7 33.Qxc7#] 1-0 >> >>The way I see it... >> >>Most computer progtams (at move 22) will play Qh4..? when I played Rb6...! and >>seized control of the open b file and won! >> >>That is because computers still lack "imagination" and still cannot "make a >>plan" for a winning position and attack at move 22...etc. >> >>Moving the Queen to the wrong side of the board wins the knight, but >>does not attack the King...etc. >>regards >>Art > >You just posted this position yesterday, making the same claim that computers >"miss this completely". Now you say that computers "lack imagination" (which >they do, OBVIOUSLY -- think about it). > >What you once again fail to understand (despite at least three posts stating >this) is that Qh4 also wins, and that this position is not valid as a test. You >played a good move, and many computers also choose a different GOOD MOVE. Just >because computers don't agree with you doesn't make them wrong. > >jm
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