Author: Art Basham
Date: 07:28:27 12/02/02
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Thanks Bob... Very well said... That is what I was trying to say! The words beauty and brilliancy rather say it all in a "nut shell" so to speak... I know that most chess computers know *how* to get two Rooks and the Queen on the same file for an attack -- (I have seen it happen). ..but do they know how to "sieze the moment" or sieze the opportunity in a game to do this..? that is the question I ask... To do this I think requires "imagination" or the ability to "make a Plan" right in the middle of a game... Thanks again! Art ================= On December 02, 2002 at 10:10:30, Bob Durrett wrote: >On December 01, 2002 at 22:30:12, John Merlino wrote: > >>On December 01, 2002 at 13:09:10, Art Basham wrote: >> >>>Here is the game that I won this past week on the internet... >>> >>>1.f4 e6 2.Nf3 d5 3.d4 c5 4.e3 Nc6 5.Bb5 Bd7 6.0-0 a6 7.Bd3 Qb6 8.dxc5 Bxc5 9.Qe1 >>>d4 10.e4 Nh6 11.h3 0-0-0 12.Kh1 Rde8 13.Na3 Bxa3 14.bxa3 f5 15.e5 g6 16.Bd2 Qa7 >>>17.Rb1 Kd8 18.Ng5 Ref8 19.Ba5+ Kc8 20.Bb6 Qa8 21.Bc5 Re8 22.Rb6! Kc7 23.Qb1 Kc8 >>>24.Bd6 Nd8 25.Bxa6 Bc6 26.Bb5 Bxb5 27.Qxb5 Nc6 28.Rb1 Nd8 29.Qc4+ Kd7 Tunroc >>>abandonne (Lag: Av=0.82s, max=1.5s)[29...Nc6 30.Nxe6 Qa5 31.Rxc6+ bxc6 32.Qxc6+ >>>Qc7 33.Qxc7#] 1-0 >>> >>>The way I see it... >>> >>>Most computer progtams (at move 22) will play Qh4..? when I played Rb6...! and >>>seized control of the open b file and won! >>> >>>That is because computers still lack "imagination" and still cannot "make a >>>plan" for a winning position and attack at move 22...etc. >>> >>>Moving the Queen to the wrong side of the board wins the knight, but >>>does not attack the King...etc. >>>regards >>>Art >> >>You just posted this position yesterday, making the same claim that computers >>"miss this completely". Now you say that computers "lack imagination" (which >>they do, OBVIOUSLY -- think about it). >> >>What you once again fail to understand (despite at least three posts stating >>this) is that Qh4 also wins, and that this position is not valid as a test. You >>played a good move, and many computers also choose a different GOOD MOVE. Just >>because computers don't agree with you doesn't make them wrong. >> >>jm > >But, jm, you miss the real issue here. It is a matter of "beauty." He says the >computer's move was ugly. Need to focus on the real issue here! A move can win >and still not get the brilliancy [i.e. beauty] prize. : ) > >Bob D.
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